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Why is it that universal plug and play does not seem to work so well as it did in the past .
No reason why UPnP should not work unless something in system, router or program settings has changed. However port forwarding done properly is ever reliable. Each program however needs to use a unique port. If two or more use the same port then it causes problems and fails.
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Would you be willing to try WireShare 5.6.6? This version seeks more than just a single GWebCache site for hosts. It also has updatable hostiles file. Some bug fixes. Different set of GUI icons.
See if that improves things.
In fact I was using WireShare version 5.6.6.0 since it was released and it had been working just fine before a while ago it stopped connecting.

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If you decide to try deleting the WSHR settings folder, WSHR must be closed at that time. Likewise if you add any host file (gnutella.net). Delete the entire WSHR settings folder. Then start WSHR and re-do any necessary settings within the program like you previously had. Any improvement?
I did all I could think of. First I created a back-up of my profile folder. Then deleted the profile folder and started the program- no effect. I uninstalled the program, cleared all its data and installed it anew- no effect.

However I found error.log file and kept it. Shall this file throw some light upon the cause of the problem? If needed I can upload it.

My version of Java was not the latest one, in fact it was an old version- Java JRE 8 Update 151, I updated it to version Java JRE 8 Update 211, installing both x32 and x64 versions- no effect. I have other Java programs (for example the latest version of BiglyBT - 1.9.0.0 and it works just fine). So I cannot find a way to make WireShare connect.

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Do you normally port forward your p2p sharing programs?
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Neither WireShare or Shareaza have been abandoned. Bigjx simply has not released a WSHR update for a year or two.
Does this mean that WireShare and Shareaza are developed by one and the same person?

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You should keep in mind Shareaza has not updated its G1 code in 15 or more years and is extremely elementary and notably outdated. Due to Shareaza relying upon TCP for searching and some other communications, it causes the network a lot of extra traffic and bandwidth overhead. The more modern programs only allow a percentage of such outdated programs to connect to them. Thus Shareaza hosts are heavily competing for available G1 connections.
Gnutella 1 code that Shareaza uses might be archaic but at least it works:



Shareaza connects almost immediately. While WireShare, which might be using more modern Gnutella 1 code, just fails to connect. gtk-gnutella manages to connect also almost immediately. When all my file sharing programs connect just fine (Shareaza, gtk-gnutella, SoulseekQt, AirDC++, eMule, Ares, Fopnu, etc) I am inclined to suppose that the problem is not withing my system. Is there anything that I can try using Advanced Tools - Add a Connection? I am far from being an expert but I think that Shareaza is far more flexible in diagnosing and resolving connection problems.

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I’m a member of both the Cabos and Phex (recent) dev teams.
Both Cabos and Phex are abandoned for good, right?

I would appreciate if someone creates a portable program for Gnutella- a portable version would have significant advantages- one could run and test it with different profiles. Most torrent clients can run in portable mode or offer fully portable versions (Tixati, Halite, BitComet, etc) but unfortunately this is not the case with Gnutella clients- they are either abandoned or the development is extremely slow. I am not aware of a single Gnutella client that supports portability and since the general public has almost entirely lost interest in Gnutella I suppose that a portable Gnutella client will never come to existence.

If you are still in contact with the developer of WireShare please advise him to release a new version which would resolve the connectivity problems- I see that I am not the only one plagued by failed connections.

Off-topic questions- do you know why Ares is no longer hosted on SourceForge? It is no longer open source? Is there a way to disable check for updates and automatic downloads of the latest version of Ares? Can Cabos, Gnucleus and Phex still work on modern OS? Have you ever tried Fopnu (https://www.fopnu.com/) and if you have- what do you think?

I could not respond earlier- I was very busy. I finally found time to come back to WireShare but I could not make it connect. Anyway, thank you for all the detailed information you have provided, I do appreciate your willingness to help.
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I published a long post but it is not visible- what is this?! What kind of moderation is this? I have never posted any spam.
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Well , yes it was invisible at first , but now it has become visible ; perhaps the managers were checking it first before posting it .
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Please remember that patience is a virtue
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I uninstalled version 5.6.6.0, deleted the profile data, installed version 5.6.5.0 and WireShare miraculously connected almost immediately:



and was working fine:



Then I installed version 5.6.6.0 again and WireShare again failed to connect. I cannot understand this. So (I hope- temporarily) I reverted back to version 5.6.5.0. I have no idea whatsoever why version 5.6.5.0 can connect while version 5.6.6.0 cannot.

As a result of deleting the profile data WireShare is hashing 17 000+ files and this is slow.

In short- downgrade from version 5.6.6.0 to version 5.6.5.0 resolved my connection problem (at least for now).
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Sorry about the visibility of your post. There are some keywords that cause a filter to hide posts for moderation. The url triggered this.

I like your efforts to get WireShare connecting.

Even though WireShare (WSHR) should connect fine with UPnP, if it's not connecting then perhaps UPnP has somehow become disabled via an Windows update. Do strongly consider trying port forwarding. I know it might sound like a lot of work but after you've done it once you will realise it was not such a huge deal to achieve. It's easier on some routers than others.

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... However I found error.log file and kept it. Shall this file throw some light upon the cause of the problem? If needed I can upload it.

My version of Java was not the latest one ...
Did you try reading the log to see if there are any issues? It should be possible to upload the file when posting. However you first might want to check to remove any personal information such as account name which you could simply replace with word user/account.

Minor java versions should not make any particular difference. The changes are generally for security reasons if using for browsers, however afaik WireShare does not use that portion of java.

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Does this mean that WireShare and Shareaza are developed by one and the same person?
No, totally independent teams. And it appears now Shareaza's development has shifted into two teams or one team and one independent developer. Just because there's no updates for a year or two does not mean development has finished permanently.
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Both Cabos and Phex are abandoned for good, right?
No. Well I hope not. Unlike Acqlite, Cabos for OSX was never upgraded to universal 32/64 bit and so does not run on the later MacOSX's.

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I would appreciate if someone creates a portable program for Gnutella- a portable version would have significant advantages- ...
There were a portables created for FrostWire (created by File_Girl) and LimeWire back in 2010 and 2011. I'm not sure if this is what you are referring to in regards to 'portable'.

I can contact the WSHR dev but he is not always responsive. Generally because he is super busy with work.

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Off-topic questions- do you know why Ares is no longer hosted on SourceForge? It is no longer open source? Is there a way to disable check for updates and automatic downloads of the latest version of Ares? Can Cabos, Gnucleus and Phex still work on modern OS? Have you ever tried Fopnu ... and if you have- what do you think?
I don't think I ever tried Ares or if I did it was only to very quickly check it out many years ago. The source code might have shifted to a different open source repository. Last year Sourceforge went through some dramatic changes breaking the site into two operational groups/categories behind the scenes.

As mentioned Cabos won't work on 64-bit but that probably won't affect Windows. I just installed Cabos and it opens ok on Win 10. Gnucleus I don't know, haven't tried it for a year or two. Phex has some issues on some systems. But I just opened up Win 10 and opened phex_3.4.2.163 (an alpha-beta) without any issues. After I replaced the host file it connected immediately (one or two seconds.) But Phex has no way of warning you if the program is firewalled and Phex can be incredibly difficult to connect with if firewalled. I just opened up WSHR 5.6.6 on Win 10 and it connected after a few seconds. Non-firewalled but port forwarded.

I've never tried or heard of Fopnu.
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The error.log below (from 2019-04-09):

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java.io.IOException: bad domain name: '' at 18
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.readName(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.JmDNS$SocketListener.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
java.io.IOException: bad domain name: '' at 18
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.readName(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.JmDNS$SocketListener.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
java.io.IOException: bad domain name: '' at 18
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.readName(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.JmDNS$SocketListener.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
java.io.IOException: bad domain name: '' at 18
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.readName(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.JmDNS$SocketListener.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
java.io.IOException: bad domain name: '' at 18
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.readName(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.JmDNS$SocketListener.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
java.io.IOException: bad domain name: '' at 13
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.readName(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.DNSIncoming.<init>(Unknown Source)
	at javax.jmdns.JmDNS$SocketListener.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
As I am typing these lines I have turbo-charged connection (as shown in the screen-shots uploaded above). I still cannot get why version 5.6.5.0 connects while version 5.6.6.0 does not connect (on my machine).

For the time being I have no time for port forwarding.

I have Windows 8 and I have disabled all updates long time ago so no update should have caused the problem.

As for Ares- I have read that the non-SourceForge versions are adware (bundled installers).

If I have anything new to say I will post here again.

Thank you for all your help.
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These are errors handled by the UncaughtExceptionHandlerImpl section of the code which has existed since limewire. “This class serves as the error handler for both java threads as well as errors occurring in JNA callbacks.“ Error handler for uncaught exceptions originating from non-WireShare/limewire. The error is quite early in the WireShare startup procedure. Bigjx might be able to make sense of it.
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566 wont work with plug and play ; it will only connect if you port forward ;

wireshare 5.6.5.0 connected within 5 minutes with that beautiful deep rich dark blue of the turbo charged connection ; search and downloading and uploading and sharing all working well .
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