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lauritastlouis November 26th, 2006 05:03 PM

i just talked to chater, after running those tests listed above. they said that they are not intentionally blocking any ports, to their knowledge. When i click on the first test, it says that everything is working fine. when i click on the test to check specific ports, it tells me that every port is closed. i tried probably 100 random port numbers, and they're all closed according to the test, so i wonder how many ports are availible to begin with, or if maybe the test doesn't work.. i don't know. I redownloaded bearshare (older version) and bearstart, and have been having no problems. shareaza is fine too.

Lord of the Rings November 26th, 2006 05:09 PM

If they work for you then good. Perhaps stay with them. But if you also want to keep going with LW, ... not sure about the port test you did. Some port tests simply show that your port is properly safeguarded. To check it properly you need to have the program open at the same time to see if the port has been opened for that program.

My thoughts with Charter is they are not blocking ports, but using a bandwidth shaper which detects the p2p program be it a specific one or all p2p programs & shape their bandwidth. Samples of p2p bandwidth shapers Sandvine,
http://www.ipp2p.org/docu_en.html ______ p-cube ______ http://www.ispreview.co.uk/ispnews/a...03/arc15.shtml

And this is an interesting discussion of pro's & cons of isp shaping http://torrentfreak.com/traffic-shaping-good-or-bad/

lauritastlouis November 26th, 2006 05:19 PM

hmm.. interesting
 
downloading from charter.. interesting. i can dl audio files, but not video files.. i tried for the heck of it to download several video files at random to test. the only one that worked was an explicit file. i cancelled it before it got far, but it did connect. anyone wondering if their isp is blocking ports, but cannot tell should try to DL several types and random titles. it'd be interesting to see if there are similar results with those having problems but not with a confirmed blocking isp:confused:

Lord of the Rings November 26th, 2006 05:21 PM

Then at present your problem is not a connection problem but an upload/download problem. Be wary of Fake files in search results

A magnet link video file, see if you can downld this one http://www.magnetmix.com/video.shtml

Keep in mind Charter doesn't block all p2p users, just the heavy users. Which you'll see on page one under the Charter note link about their fair use policy.

lauritastlouis November 26th, 2006 05:35 PM

the thing is, I'm not a high use user. I used to be but frankly, i ran out of stuff i wanted to DL. I would get on there, but nothing came to mind. I hadn't used any p2p software in about 6 months on any regular basis, and hadn't used it at all in over a month. I can DL the any of the files you suggested, but when i click on it, bearshare does the DL. i don't know how to make LW do it. BS was shut down at the time, but it opened up. maybe this has something to do, maybe not.. the LW icon on my taskbar used to bee green and yellow when i used to software a year ago. right now, it's grey in the middle??

Lord of the Rings November 26th, 2006 05:40 PM

LW 4.13 beta will give you the option of which you want as the magnet handler. FW next release hasn't come out yet. Shouldn't be too long though. ;)

lauritastlouis November 26th, 2006 06:22 PM

strangly enough.. all p2p software i've tried is now working just fine.. out of nowhere. LW, BS, and shareaza all working on all files. my firewall was disabled the entire time.. i didn't do anything different. i just kept trying new searches and new DLs and all of the sudden, files that were searching for sources for over 2 days suddenly had them.. how odd!

Dig It November 27th, 2006 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnight_blue
I now know that BT are blocking p2p, I've come back to use Limewire for the first time in nearly a month and it's the same response - I can't connect.

I think it's time to add BT to the list of ISP's that are blocking Gnutella. Ah, well...


I was sort of wondering (long after the fact)when that started happening to me.... Is it possible that you had just come to the end of a "monthly" max. data count? Say, your allowed "X" amount and then they pull back on the Raine's?

hi_shobhit76 January 17th, 2007 11:35 AM

using a LAN as internet connection
 
i am not a very big computer geek....but know that i am using a LAN for accessing my internet....and i desperately want to access limewire which i had been using from my home but now i work in a company called "3i-infotech" situated in india........i dont know much info about networking or routers.......all i know is that limewire takes a lot of time to open up and after some time only 1 single bar remains green for infinite time....and i cannot connect to the peers.....please guide me how shall i operate.....i have tried checking what i have been told in the earlier posts to check the port 6436 and its showing "your test worked"......if u want to anything more technical info then please tell me how to get that info from my computer like ISP....router n alll.......

thanx in advance

please help me out.

redheadedrocker January 27th, 2007 08:19 PM

perhaps centurytell dsl may be preventing me from connecting. i have downloaded limewire 3 times on different occasions and tried all fixes and never have been connected completely. i only get one bar and that really sux.

redheadedrocker January 27th, 2007 08:24 PM

this may not be apropriate on this forum but hey "dont we pay these jerks for internet service? we all need to start calling the offices of these companies and i think enough disssatisfied customers will possibly do some good!

klaw May 6th, 2007 02:12 PM

Hi
Hope you dont mind - but I just spotted a couple of things in your FAQs which are incorrect.

----

(no 5)
TalkTalk is now owned by CPW. (They never were owned by tiscali, but at one point a few years ago either resold tiscali products/used tiscali backhaul services).
Whilst TT have for a long time blocked/shaped p2p (and other protocols!), since last month (apr 07) there is strong evidence that p2p is blocked between 8am up to midnight. Off peak is still speed restricted.
Some success can be achieved by using encryption, LW seems to fare better than say uTorrent.

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(no 16)

Ive used LW for several years on a Plusnet account and not had a problem connecting.
Test http://www3.limewire.com:6346/ results in "Your test worked!!"

PlusNet dont use port blocking for p2p. They use ellacoyas which are too intelligent to be fooled by a simple change of port.

Yes they do shape p2p traffic - but how much shaping depends on which account type you are on. The ch*apest account is heavily shaped and not recommended for p2p, whilst PAYG should give you line speed. Time of day can also affect p2p speeds as during peak-time the ch*aper accounts will see slow downs, but should still be able to connect.
Off peak should be fine for all accounts except the £9.99 one which is throttled to 256kbps.

Now some information which could very well be related to the post that you have high-lighted in 16 on your FAQ?
PlusNet accounts can be configured by the main account holder whether to allow p2p or not. This can be changed by the account holder in the control panel >> Connections >> Surf
(Safe Surf) at https://portal.plus.net/surf/
The full list of configurable ports are available from that page
If the account holder has activated "Safe Surf" then 6346 is one of the many ports that can be blocked.
The option is supposed to be there for say basic parental controls, but because it does block on port number ranges then, it wont stop a teenager determined to change the port no.
PlusNet use this disclaimer:-
"Please note: We can’t guarantee that Safe Surf will block all Peer-to-Peer and USENET traffic. Some Peer-to-Peer applications can be set to use a different port if the common port is blocked."

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(no 2)
Tiscali UK
Whilst the faq isnt actually incorrect - some more info - P2P during peak time hours is very heavily "discouraged", and if you do, you could find all protocols being slowed down and your connection heavily throttled for several days. :/

[edit]

Not sure why ch3ap has been caught in the swear filter?
***** = least expensive.

ukbobboy01 May 24th, 2007 12:49 PM

Ask them?

scotchy19 May 26th, 2007 07:13 AM

I have Rogers
 
Hi, I have Rogers internet.. I don't seem to have a problem running Limewire... I get 1 or 2 movies downloaded each day.. for me, that is certainly great!.. I run Utorrent and Limewire at the same time and there is no speed interuptions.. my limewire runs anywhere from 10mb/s and can hit up to 163mb/s... but it ussually sticks around 55mb/s... to me thats not to bad, so I don't supose I have anything to complain about paying only $30 for the internet and getting all my movies/music for free...

Cristiane111 May 27th, 2007 05:38 AM

I am also experiencing the same connection issues where LW just says "Connecting..." and never does anything more. I've tried all sorts of things mentioned in the posts, and I think maybe verizon is blocking port 3128. Is that possible? I've also tried using proxies to get around that, and it's not working.
What am I to do?? Lime wire was working fine a couple days ago.:mad2:

storrmin May 27th, 2007 11:51 AM

anyway around the blocking by isps yet?

Jhadzia May 30th, 2007 08:40 PM

Stealth
 
Greetings! I have gone through thread after thread, just saying that so you know I have tried many things. The only thing that comes close to my proposed problem is the "stealth" part. I got that result and called Verizon and they said they are not blocking P2P filesharing and wanted to transfer me to the "Premium Support Center" which would charge for it. I'm hoping to not have to pay more to get this program running. Please let me know if there is something I can do on my end to fix this.

FYI:
Windows XP SP2 (previously installed)
DSL (data line only - no local phone service)
Verizon
No updates
Connect from Home
No other computers connected
Detached modem (Westell 6100)
LW Version 4.12.11 Pro
Java 1.6.0_01
MS Windows Firewall (disabled and LW exceptioned)

Cannot get passed "Starting Connection"
One green bar
Searches time out (obviously)
Cannot direct connect to another computer (says it's because I'm behind a firewall)

Zenelle stopped responding to my emails... Just hoping you guys can help me where Zenelle didn't. If you need more info... let me know. Oh, and I can't uninstall the Windows Firewall program... even though I would love to.

Eximius June 2nd, 2007 12:03 PM

Eclipse broadband throttle P2P, I managed to get a max of 10KB/s in my short time with them.

t_davis85 July 15th, 2007 07:17 PM

I am having the same problem and I can't figure out how to allow port 6346 to have access. I tried the test and it came back stealth.

Chels36927 August 23rd, 2007 08:56 PM

So I just called Comcast. I know this thread says they do NOT block p2p, but it seems anytime i try to run a p2p program... oh! my internet dies. I spoke to a very tactless customer service representitve who informed me that they (comcast customer service) had received an email just this morning stating that Comcast does not interfere with file sharing programs and in fact couldn't because Comcast doesn't monitor customers' internet usage.

even the customer service representive admitted this sounded absolutely ridiculous.

just curious, why would you send out an email declaring you do NOT do something, unlesS multitudes of people have been complaining you in DO?

chester.lukey October 18th, 2007 11:55 AM

Tiscali Just wish
 
Hi all you guys. Not a one for forums but just felt I had to offer words of sympathy. I joined Tiscali a year ago and joined Lime Wire for the trial period and had no probs downloading music. I have just given Lime Wire my money for a year to rejoin and sat for ages wondering why nothing is happening. Now I know why. Sick as a ripped off parrot. should have read the forums first. We live and learn but as you say makes you wonder what we are paying this money for Chow Chester. Ps suppose a refund is out of the question anyone?

jerzeyboy October 19th, 2007 12:28 PM

What if all my ports are listed as stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 133379)
There's many ways an isp or business such as a university can block or filter p2p. It may apply to speeds, or blocking of ports or programs or making certain p2p clients illegal (unauthorised) on their system.

Endless Splendors check thru the proxies options b/c there's mention of various ports you might be able to use there. Another way to find out if a port is blocked is to test various port no.'s
This simple test is for port 6346. Using your browser go here: http://www3.limewire.com:6346/ The page should say 'Your test worked!'. What happens when you go there? If you can't get the page loaded then port 6346 is blocked.
Another simple test. Keep LW open!!! & then, using your browser go here: Port Authority, for Internet Port 6346*** (Press Probe this port button) Does it say open or closed? If closed then set the test for a different port number. ie: type in the port no. in the space next to the jump button then press jump. Then do the test of the new port no. (perhaps best if your firewall is temporarily disabled or test with it (a) on & (b) off, same applies for NAT modems/routers to test directly by (c) by-passing these devices & (d) also with them.) Another test is to use http://koti.mbnet.fi/gfactory/ctest/ where you can test various ports but likewise you need to have LW open at the time for some strange reason!!!

(If the result comes back as Stealth then: There are only two valid responses a port can give when it is scanned: "open" and "closed". A port is considered "stealth" when it doesn't respond to a request at all. All the GRC port scanner does is fire packets out at your ports. If your port answers back, it will be listed as either "open" or "closed". if your firewall prevents your computer from answering back to GRC's port scanner, the port will be listed as "stealth".)

After trying the link Port Authority, for Internet Port 6346*** i found that not only is port 6346 listed as stealth but every port I try is listed as stealth. Both my windows and norton firewall are disabled while doing this. I have also tried the link http://www3.limewire.com:6346/ and get 'Your test worked' so what does that mean. That my port is open but there is a firewall issue? Not more than a week and half ago I was able to connect without an issue but now I cannot get passed connecting to my network. I am not getting any error though it just won't connect to a host. I am on a school resnet but as I was able to connect earlier I am not sure it's an isp problem.

chester.lukey October 20th, 2007 12:00 PM

Port Authority, for Internet Port 6346***
 
Hi Jerzey boy. Like you I have done all the test and came up with exaclty the same as you.

I even set the alarm for 3am this morning to see if I could use Limewire as another reader suggested but with no success. Guess they have got us by the b---s now. Big Brother and all that. Just who is really in control of your computer?

My mate is having the same trouble with Bt guess its the way its going now. I have given up just gutted I did not read the forum before I parted with my money but we live and learn.Take care guys Chester:xeri_ok1ani:

Ecthelion October 20th, 2007 05:55 PM

Port Authority, for Internet Port 6346*** insists the port is open, but Limewire apparently disagrees, since it still can't connect.

http://www3.limewire.com:6346/ confirmed with 'Your test worked!', but still no connection.

chester.lukey October 22nd, 2007 10:32 AM

Tiscali
 
Just as a matter of interest you guys. I was telling a mate of mine about all the problems were having as he also used Limewire but had not been on there for months so I asked if he could download a particular track for me and bet him he could not.
Guess what he had no trouble. Was with Freeserve and now Virgin Mmmm.

Regards Chester :idea:

capridrifter November 6th, 2007 08:37 AM

With formally known as cascade access (reliance connects) I am getting VERY slow speeds both with my Utorrent and Limewire ...And sometimes even right off of the internet! I get DSL and its acting like dial up......IN FACT back when I had dial up it was a tad faster......WTF!

And They boot me off all the time...I get unlimited downloads and upload ..its just one monthly fee.....I should get what I pay for right?

cowboys65 December 7th, 2007 06:54 PM

Reliance Connects Help
 
Hello
I work at Cascade
You say your getting knocked off all the time
and have real slow speeds
If you are still having issues since your post please drop
me a line. I can look into the problem for you
I work in the department that can fix the connection to your home
I'm not one of the help desk people.
Generally dropping connections and slow speeds
are related to the connection leaving our office and going to your home
so please let me know

capridrifter December 15th, 2007 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboys65 (Post 300438)
Hello
I work at Cascade
You say your getting knocked off all the time
and have real slow speeds
If you are still having issues since your post please drop
me a line. I can look into the problem for you
I work in the department that can fix the connection to your home
I'm not one of the help desk people.
Generally dropping connections and slow speeds
are related to the connection leaving our office and going to your home
so please let me know

yeah... I finally have a new router/modem...still have the problem...you think it could be my own setup? I had to run my own phone cabe's to save on cost.....I still need to fix it...I got about 50ft more then i really need ...I shut off and turn on the modem every20 min due to lost connection....Oh and thanks..

mis4ta December 17th, 2007 08:00 PM

same here.............does anyone on this damn forum have the answer instead of all the blah...blah....blah.........Is limewire cheating paying users.....it seems like someone like a moderator or assistant or owner or hell........somebody would answer us with real answers........I've tried everything possible on this site as well including the test and port test.........ok......it all pass ...........but limewire..........frostwire............IS STILL NOT WORKING........... and I just renewed with payment , thinking that was the problem..........but it wasn't ...........WHY DON'T ANYONE HAVE REAL ANSWERS!!!!!!!!!!!

ukbobboy01 December 18th, 2007 05:10 AM

How to win friends and influence people and taking your frustrations out on the forum isn't one of them.

mis4ta December 18th, 2007 06:18 AM

and I can see you don't have any real answers either........

capridrifter December 18th, 2007 10:21 PM

Its fine he's just upset and fustrated like I am is all...Might as well let it out...Or you may go nuts and throw the computer out the window........Like I did......Long story...:computer2:

garbagefan2 December 21st, 2007 05:36 PM

This may be important to some, but not all.

If you have Comcast, and you use Bittorrent. Comcast is blocking Bittorrent using something called ''SandVine''. There are some solutions if you search on google. This sucks for me! :bangh:

ta2hallm December 28th, 2007 07:00 PM

Netflash (ISP in Ontario, www.netflash.net) openly admitted they block P2P traffic in an email (their excuse is it is unhealthy). They provide a wireless service to rural areas. Portion of the email is below:

I'm assuming that this is through a peer-to-peer program, that allows you to download music, movies, etc for free.

This type of service, as well as many other unhealthy items, such as
viruses and spyware, are very unhealthy for any network, and a wireless
network is very sensitive to these unhealthy items. As a result we have
blocked many of these items to ensure reliability and maximum uptime.

Joe the Porsche December 28th, 2007 10:45 PM

wow this is a long thread, and I'm actually confused, lol.

ccsmith35 December 28th, 2007 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chester.lukey (Post 293230)
Hi all you guys. Not a one for forums but just felt I had to offer words of sympathy. I joined Tiscali a year ago and joined Lime Wire for the trial period and had no probs downloading music. I have just given Lime Wire my money for a year to rejoin and sat for ages wondering why nothing is happening. Now I know why. Sick as a ripped off parrot. should have read the forums first. We live and learn but as you say makes you wonder what we are paying this money for Chow Chester. Ps suppose a refund is out of the question anyone?

My feelings exactly...............!

ccsmith35 December 28th, 2007 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukbobboy01 (Post 301597)
How to win friends and influence people and taking your frustrations out on the forum isn't one of them.

She's right. We paid for this service. There are all these posts about this and no one can solve them. Saying things like "sometimes you have do to things on your own". Well I for one went and paid for the upgrade again, and I have been trying for 6 hours now everything in the forum. You tend to get alittle frustrated when you paid for something you can't use.

ukbobboy01 December 29th, 2007 02:37 PM

Well CCSmith

What is this service you have paid for? If you knew about the gnutella network you would know that no-one owns it, no-one controls it, there are no guarantees and so no service.

What you have bought is specialist software and, as anyone who knows about specialist software, they sometimes require some configuration to work with your particular equipment.

Unfortunately, it seems that the more facilities, features and bug fixes added to the Limewire application the more difficult it becomes to configure. And, as such, progressively more people find it difficult to work with their equipment.

I guess that at some stage the LW Org may develop a slightly different way to incorporate additional facilities without affecting their current user base but until then ???????


UK Bob

kduhaine December 31st, 2007 09:19 AM

connection problems
 
I am also having issues. I use verizon and I do believe they are blocking port 6342. Should I try another port? How to go around this?

pooterjunkie February 20th, 2008 07:03 AM

I am having a similar problem. 2 days ago LW was working great, today it shows "starting conection" and thats it. I am using embarq hi speed, Windows Home with SP2 and all available updates.

Thanks

kduhaine February 22nd, 2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kduhaine (Post 302939)
I am also having issues. I use verizon and I do believe they are blocking port 6342. Should I try another port? How to go around this?

I eventually fixed this on my own. Somehow it was my modem blocking these ports.!!!! All is set and I can connect just fine.

Xcom46 March 27th, 2008 03:00 PM

For you people that are with comcast I have found out that they are starting to throttling P2P traffic as of late.Good news, good news, right? Nope, not really. What they're going to do instead is throttle all file transfers for high-usage consumers.

What Tony Warner, Comcast's chief technology officer Told the WSJ (paid subscription required) is that rather than throttle P2P, Comcast will throttle all traffic for those high-usage customers. Of course, as with Comcast bandwidth caps, the exact definition of "high" wasn't elaborated upon.

So, as we move toward more services that require high usage, such as IPTV, Hulu, Netflix's streaming service, iTunes movie rentals, and the like - ISPs are telling us "don't use so much." How can this conundrum be resolved?
Simple, unfortunately. It seems likely that ISPs will begin to move en masse toward the tiered structure that Time-Warner Cable is trying out. The "all-you-can-eat" accounts will - though it will take some time - eventually peter out, if the trend continues

Nascaracsan April 27th, 2008 05:21 PM

I had no idea IP's were blocking ports. I don't do much downloading anymore, no time. But today, I had some time...so I went to Drumbeat first and it wouldn't connect, so I went to try LW and it wouldn't connect either

For the past two hours I've been reading post here and troubleshooting LW doing what people say to do in the posts.

One topic suggested downloading Frostbite to see if it didn't at first, then I read in their forum that you need JSE 5.0 so I went to Utility folder and changed JAVA over to JSE 5.0. and it connected.

I tried both LW and DB after changing it and neither one worked. I probed all ports while apps running (LW, DB, FB) all were open but only FrostBite connected. I went to Frostbite and checked the port and changed LW to that port. it wouldn't connect.

All of a sudden at 5pm LW connects with ports 6346 and 12856 the FB port. Drumbeat also able to connect with its orignial port of 6699 hadn't tried any changes to it because I was working on LW issue. Drumbeat has no more Forum for help.

What this tells me is that it is my ISP Road Runner/Time Warner that have set time restrictions on usage. Or there is something else really strange going on that is affecting my PSP software.

Just thought I'd add my findings

Nas

shirrrshah May 22nd, 2008 11:11 AM

etisalat blocks limewire
 
here we are in uae ,etisalat also blocked Lw , I got this problem since 2 months back

ThePrentis June 17th, 2008 01:24 PM

I use a MotoRAZR V3m Cellphone as my modem and Sprint as my ISP. The phone's display and the PC software interface had indicators for my connection state.
Problem:
The phone would go offline yet the PC stayed online?!? I made the error of clicking the stop button and restarting the PC software, upon which time I received a "No Modem Device Installed!".???
Nothing worked: system restart, software remove/re-install, System Restore...
I eventually re-installed the entire OS and softwares. That worked. I got hit twice more before stumbling on an answer. First...,
When the phone goes offline and the PC doesn't, I unplugged the phone from the USB and wait for the disconnect sounds + 3 secs. And I wait for the software to detect the missing device. Then I plug the phone in and the software re-intializes automatically. I usually have to do this once per internet logon session.
Second...,
A tip from the forum; I connect manually in Limewire after it finishes loading.
And something I discovered; Most ISP's look for a browser signature. I open IExplorer goto Google, minimize it, and then continue w/ Limewire.

pbrahan June 18th, 2008 06:09 AM

New and frustrated!
 
Hello,

I have had limewire for a very long time (Pro) and have had successful connections to the "Turbo-Charged" status after mere seconds until these past two weeks. I thought maybe it was an expired Pro membership, so I upgraded last night and still am unable to connect at home or at work.

Here are my stats:

Max OsX 10.5.3 (Leopard) - (I have had Leopard for over 6 months and have had successful connections with it.)
LimewirePro 4.18.2
Home connection: wireless router/BellSouth DSL
Work connection: unknown (but i work at a large hospital so it's got to be something relatively huge and good. I have been able to connect from both home and work.)

I have the "Firewall" icon at the bottom left corner and the one bar with "Starting Connection" that just stays stuck there.

I've tried testing the ports and when I test 6346 it says closed... I have changed and added so many things in my attempts to figure this out that I just now clicked "Restore defaults" in the Limewire Preferences > Advanced > Firewall settings:bangh:. So, that's where I am... if anyone can talk me out of this chaos, I will be forever grateful.

Thanks,

Paula

smitheagle July 15th, 2008 11:18 AM

This has also happened to me in the last few weeks after no problems ever, im using BT Broadband and it just stays on 'currently connecting'

dmwhit92 August 2nd, 2008 01:10 PM

Thank you!
 
Thought I was going nuts for a minute!!! Working one minute, and not the next!! Knew it was the ISP! Changed ports, now all is well!!

sestey September 17th, 2008 06:18 PM

yea, how can we tell which ports the other p2p peers are using?

Lord of the Rings September 17th, 2008 08:46 PM

Call them & ask. Speak to a tech. :)


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