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Lord of the Rings February 11th, 2005 04:05 PM

ISP's known to BLOCK or Filter p2p or specifically Limewire
 
Here's an example of how a p2p bandwidth shaper can work against Gnutella: Bandwidth Shaper Sample - typical of how some ISP's use it (click on link) ie: giving priority to net surfing & low priorities to p2p sharing. However there are different types of filtering & filter programs that are used. One of them being Sandvine. Amongst the techniques sometimes used is port blocking of those using p2p sharing programs. Perhaps initially a detector after which a filter of some sort is applied to that particular user.
A more up-to-date list of ISP's known to shape or block p2p sharing bandwidth can be found here http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Bad_ISPs


1. The 1st 5 I can add here are Insight. Insight seems to specifically target Limewire. One person found a solution (if only temporary), if you view the sticky in this section (Important!!! A Fix for those whose ISP's block Limewire - pages 1-3 have more proxy options.) See example here. AND More Proxy instructional help with specific details, links & sample


2. Tiscali is known in some locations in Europe (such as Italy) to filter/shape p2p sharing bandwidth (ie: slow down speeds.) There's been reports on the forum & various articles online. One reference is here in 2nd last article at bottom of linked page: Jurisprudence | EDRI (hopefully I can find some of the original articles I read last year in 2004.) More recently: Tiscali blocking Limewire. _And ISP Problems... Namely "Tiscali" - Tech Support Forum. __The Tiscali company has focused its presence in 5 European markets: Italy, UK, Germany, The Netherlands and Czech Republic. It has bought control over many other ISP's in those markets and applies similar p2p blocking or shaping techniques in all. Tiscali owns an IP and VoIP network of 15,000 kms, covering all European countries, the US included. UK, Click the Fair Usage Policy link on left of page on this link: Fair usage policy. The companies Tiscali bought in UK generally retain their original business name but now use Tiscali's policies on blocking p2p sharing (try to investigate who is the parent company of your ISP. Tiscali now controls very large areas of the UK !) Things to try: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/downlo...k-tiscali.html


3. Rogers of Canada has been confirmed to be shaping bandwidth. See Rogers cable filtering


4. Optimum Online (particularly of Long Island) are totally blocking all p2p sharing!!!. See Error Message: machine doesn't appear to have active connection/ firewall blocking LW - Gnutella Forums for just one of many, many examples!!! It seems they are blocking ports. Go to LW's menu bar, Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewalls & change the listening port to one between 49152 - 65535. Press Apply. Then restart LW. Ports 64049 or 50012 seem good for this isp.


5. TalkTalk UK is known to shape bandwidth (confirmation email from Talktalk shown here.) See posting & findings HERE (click on link) It seems TalkTalk may be a subsidiary of Tiscali who are known to shape bandwidth or refuse p2p connections. TalkTalk apparently don't shape the bandwidth during certain hours, see THIS for details!


6. Cox is known to filter p2p. Apparently they don't apply it to all people within any area, but more-so individuals. See: Problem with Cox Communications? ______ Hidden selective p2p upload blocking!. Sneaky monopolistic tactics Cox Cable bought the local CableAmerica.

New reports on Cox & petition: Cox Internet - Blocking Ports Petition (<- please sign this petition.) Broadband reports & also eMule forums (Thanks to KathW for the these latter Cox links)


7. CIS (Clark Information Systems) a 3rd party ISP blocks ports to disrupt or stop p2p programs. "I called my ISP, and they said they have certain ports blocked so that people cannot use file sharing programs for bandwidth purposes." - sent via message to me.


8. (a) * Official report on UK isp's that throttle speeds: ISP's that cap heavy bandwidth users & p2p (click on link)
__ (b) * Worldwide listings of ISP's who shape p2p sharing bandwidth: (i) Bad ISPs - AzureusWiki _ (ii) List of Internet Service Providers That Throttle P2P Traffic


9. Clearwire (click link for details) blocking ports & p2p programs. 10. PIPEX (click link for details) P2P traffic shaping. / Homecall (Both PIPEX & Homecall are owned by Tiscali. See Tiscali links above for details of what to do.)
11. MicroLnk (click link for details) blocking ports. 12. Virgin (click link for details) P2P traffic shaping. 13. Hellas On Line (HOL) (click link for details - Greek site) - traffic shaping. Other Reports: emule forum. Shaping. OTE has also been criticized for artificially limiting the number of packets passing per second through an ADSL line. 14. Charter appears to be severely shaping certain users who probably fail in their fair use policy of bandwidth use. No official report except many reports on this forum of same problems; Problems uploading & downlding & this one Slow speeds & especially point 13 of their user policy. 15. Speednet in Michigan throttles limewire during the day.

16. Shaw cable services. There's been evidence both in this forum as well as other p2p forums of capping speeds for p2p use, eg: Even caps on other p2p programs. One day you get 100-150 KB/s & the next about 3 - 5 KB/s. Example 2: Slow everywhere, Example 3: Lots of people using p2p, Examples 4 & 5 which were ideal, removed due to those sites being sold.

17. Plusnet blocking ports. May happen all of a sudden & the port test for 6346 showed "The page cannot be displayed" and "Cannot find server". After trying a port in the 49XX range people can once again connect. Example here. OSX example Where is the Firewall?

18. CARPHONE WAREHOUSE BROADBAND SERVICES (used for AOL services in parts of UK), are 'Shaping' p2p bandwidth. Posts in reference to this: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/connec...downloads.html _ and _ Problem (full connection but no search results)



Either others or myself will add others to this list as they come to hand. I'm aware of at least a couple of others but will need to investigate. Likewise anybody who is CERTAIN their ISP provider is blocking their service or filtering please add your isp here. (Please supply evidence 'if' available. Verification helps.)

missmeggy February 12th, 2005 07:45 AM

EURO1NET block your ports i had nothing but trouble, uninstalling service pack 2, reformatting, opening ports on my pc, nothing worked. I rang them up to ask if they blocked ports they said they do to p2p networking.

TISCALI are going to block ports too, but this is not confirmed

im with TALKTALK.NET excellent service now

(Edited only to highlight the isp text!)

fabion February 25th, 2005 02:27 PM

Well add another one to the list.

This doesn't look good. Just searched BPS. http://www.bpsnetworks.com/aup.html

Servers
Users are not permitted to establish servers on any BPS Networks connection without prior, written consent from BPS Networks. Types of servers specifically banned include, but are not limited to:

Sharing of files (ftp servers and peer-to-peer sharing software, such as Napster® or Gnutella® are examples)
Mail servers (SMTP or POP3/IMAP servers)
Web Servers

It looks as though you have to get special permission, otherwise they block p2p programs.

fabion February 25th, 2005 09:49 PM

http://www.comcast.net/terms/subscriber.jsp

Material Downloaded through the Service: In addition to any content that may be provided by us, you may access material through the Service that is not owned by Comcast. Any such material may be downloaded from the Service only for your personal, non-commercial use, and you are not allowed to redistribute that material over any network (other than a residential home network located in the Premises) or sell or offer for sale that material. Unless other terms and conditions expressly apply to specific content, you may make: (a) one machine readable copy, (b) one backup copy, and (c) one print copy of any material downloaded from the Service; any other copying, or any redistribution or publication of any downloaded material, including, without limitation, posting to any other online service, must be with the express permission of the relevant copyright holder. In any permitted copying, redistribution or publication of copyrighted material, any changes to or deletion of any copyright notice are prohibited. Other terms and conditions may apply to your use of any content or material made available through the Service that is not owned by Comcast. You should read those terms and conditions to learn how they apply to you and your use of any non-Comcast content.

IP Addresses: Comcast will provide you with dynamic Internet protocol ("IP") address(es) as a component of the Service and these IP address(es) can and do change over time. You will not alter, modify, or tamper with these dynamic IP address(es) or those of any other customer. You agree not to use a dynamic domain name server or DNS to associate a host name with the dynamic IP address(es) for any commercial purpose. You also agree not to use any software on or in conjunction with any computer(s) or network device connected to the Service that provides for static IP address(es). If applicable, Comcast will release and/or recover the dynamic IP address(es) upon disconnection, discontinuance, or termination of the Service or this Agreement.


It appears as though you can d/l but not u/l

Lord of the Rings March 9th, 2005 01:28 PM

There has been an instance of Plusnet blocking ports. In this case, it happened all of a sudden & the http://www3.limewire.com:6346/ test showed "The page cannot be displayed" and "Cannot find server". After trying a port in the 49XX range this person was once again able to connect. This company has probably detected this person using p2p or just simply tried to prevent p2p use generally by blocking ports known to be used by p2p programs. Example here. (edited to highlight isp name)

Lord of the Rings March 10th, 2005 05:38 AM

Another to add to the list is Shaw cable services. There's been evidence both in this forum as well as other p2p forums of capping speeds for p2p use, eg: Even caps on other p2p programs. One day you get 100-150 KB/s & the next about 3 - 5 KB/s.
Example 2: Slow everywhere, Example 3: Lots of people using p2p,
Example 4: Bingo: Confirmation of Filtering at Shaw, Example 5: Bearshare Forums
(There's been word Vista III media is also related in its type of business practices.)

RedZ71 March 12th, 2005 10:43 PM

I'm not absolutley possitive but i believe Vista III Media blocks or filters the P2P Because i have tried everything in the forum and nothing works. I called to check and they say they dont but why would they want you to no. If anyone has any ideas on how to help me please let me know i have a thread on slow downloads.

fabion April 1st, 2005 03:05 AM

RoadRunner Cable and Time Warner
 
http://www.triad.rr.com/Triad/legal/...agreement.html

This may be another potential problem where you can download, but not upload.

Read Paragraph 5 b

Lord of the Rings April 12th, 2005 01:09 AM

Optimum Online
 
This is not a blocking or filtering isp AFAIK but just very strict rules. Which barely makes it relevant in this thread topic. But Optimum Online has come to our notice after a user noted they'd been sent a letter of warning from them for uplding copyright material whilst using Kazaa. The companies rules are here: 1. http://www.optimumonline.com/index.jhtml?pageType=terms & also 2. http://www.optimumonline.com/index.jhtml?pageType=aup

mikeybee85 April 22nd, 2005 07:47 AM

Cogeco in Canada Blocks Port 6346
 
I called my ISP (COGECO) in Canada, and I got some foreigner. I asked him if There were any blocks in place, and he said no. Bull. I called back and got a regular I talk to there, and He said that they have been blocking ports 6346-9999. I asked him since when, i was DL'ing yesterday, and he said since 2 AM this morning. But, I did get him to unblock me, for how long i don't know.

(Edited only to highlight the isp text!)

Bloodsh3d April 25th, 2005 12:56 PM

Plusnet
 
For anyone on plusnet..... The homesurf accounts DO BLOCK LIMEWIRE no doubts and they are not open for arguments on the matter. (trust me hate mail dusnt help) ARRGG isnt it so angry..... Dont even think the proxy workarounds help!!! woohoo thats kool:mad:

Endless Splendors April 30th, 2005 10:39 PM

School Connections
 
While I'm using a school's LAN, the solutions that may apply to all may apply to us at schools as well. I welcome your insights and solutions.

Recently, the part of our school, the LAN available to most students and faculty nights and weekends, upgraded(?) their equipment and apparently software. We have moved up from 10MB/second to 100MB/second, though services like LimeWire and SoulSeek no longer connect, and we have some sort of Internet disconnection every 10 minutes too. That asside, is there a port range not usually associated with P2P that may go unrecognized by most ISPs that we can use instead of the conventional 6349 and 6346?

I'm not a pooter geek, and other than having ports conspicuously available for assigning, I don't know Jack O' Lantern about port forwarding or hinding, or lateralling or whatever. I do know that when I'm connected to LimeWire, I'm helping you by offering my school's Internet II and humongous bandwidth as an ultrapeer for your downloads. Please help me solve this connection concern so I can share evenings and weekends with you all, and we can all get more done as well.

Lord of the Rings May 1st, 2005 03:58 AM

There's many ways an isp or business such as a university can block or filter p2p. It may apply to speeds, or blocking of ports or programs or making certain p2p clients illegal (unauthorised) on their system.

Endless Splendors check thru the proxies options b/c there's mention of various ports you might be able to use there. Another way to find out if a port is blocked is to test various port no.'s
This simple test is for port 6346. Using your browser go here: http://www3.limewire.com:6346/ The page should say 'Your test worked!'. What happens when you go there? If you can't get the page loaded then port 6346 is blocked.
Another simple test. Keep LW open!!! & then, using your browser go here: http://www.grc.com/port_6346.htm (Press Probe this port button) Does it say open or closed? If closed then set the test for a different port number. ie: type in the port no. in the space next to the jump button then press jump. Then do the test of the new port no. (perhaps best if your firewall is temporarily disabled or test with it (a) on & (b) off, same applies for NAT modems/routers to test directly by (c) by-passing these devices & (d) also with them.) Another test is to use http://koti.mbnet.fi/gfactory/ctest/ where you can test various ports but likewise you need to have LW open at the time for some strange reason!!!

(If the result comes back as Stealth then: There are only two valid responses a port can give when it is scanned: "open" and "closed". A port is considered "stealth" when it doesn't respond to a request at all. All the GRC port scanner does is fire packets out at your ports. If your port answers back, it will be listed as either "open" or "closed". if your firewall prevents your computer from answering back to GRC's port scanner, the port will be listed as "stealth".)

Lord of the Rings May 1st, 2005 04:03 AM

There has been a report that Verizon is now blocking port 6346. This is yet to be confirmed as a widespread issue.

lalunadeladia May 1st, 2005 11:18 AM

I am also experiencing the same connection issues where LW just says "Connecting..." and never does anything more. I've tried all sorts of things mentioned in the posts, and I think maybe verizon is blocking port 6346. Is that possible? I've also tried using proxies to get around that, and it's not working.
What am I to do?? Lime wire was working fine a couple days ago.

necro1970 May 5th, 2005 11:42 AM

blocking limewire
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lalunadeladia
I am also experiencing the same connection issues where LW just says "Connecting..." and never does anything more. I've tried all sorts of things mentioned in the posts, and I think maybe verizon is blocking port 6346. Is that possible? I've also tried using proxies to get around that, and it's not working.
What am I to do?? Lime wire was working fine a couple days ago.

I have Verizon and was able to use Limewire last night without any troubles so I dont think they are blocking.

Lord of the Rings July 4th, 2005 09:12 PM

Apparently Telenor, Norway is reported by one user to block ports. Details here: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=38866

4thHorseman July 27th, 2005 11:09 AM

Tiscali have capped p2p due to a court order

scottytaz July 28th, 2005 02:18 PM

isps who block limewire
 
not sure but i think tiscali are blocking /filtering limewire was getting dl speeds of up to 60 kbps two days ago since then cant get above 3kbps

R_Elgin August 1st, 2005 09:01 AM

It looks as if Kornet (Kornet.net) in Korea is blocking post 6346 as well.

tigercubb August 1st, 2005 08:35 PM

arggg
 
I run DSL through Verizon and am having a problem too.. I (dont yell at me) tried to use Kazaa and Blubster to see if I was able to use them too... NOPE still says I am behind a firewall and am unable to download... This is really getting frustrating to say the least. I have called Verizon but they said my modem doesn't have a firewall and I have none on my computer... So I dont know. But I am about at the end of my rope :(

RoninBK September 1st, 2005 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fabion
http://www.comcast.net/terms/subscriber.jsp

Material Downloaded through the Service: In addition to any content that may be provided by us, you may access material through the Service that is not owned by Comcast. Any such material may be downloaded from the Service only for your personal, non-commercial use, and you are not allowed to redistribute that material over any network (other than a residential home network located in the Premises) or sell or offer for sale that material. Unless other terms and conditions expressly apply to specific content, you may make: (a) one machine readable copy, (b) one backup copy, and (c) one print copy of any material downloaded from the Service; any other copying, or any redistribution or publication of any downloaded material, including, without limitation, posting to any other online service, must be with the express permission of the relevant copyright holder. In any permitted copying, redistribution or publication of copyrighted material, any changes to or deletion of any copyright notice are prohibited. Other terms and conditions may apply to your use of any content or material made available through the Service that is not owned by Comcast. You should read those terms and conditions to learn how they apply to you and your use of any non-Comcast content.

IP Addresses: Comcast will provide you with dynamic Internet protocol ("IP") address(es) as a component of the Service and these IP address(es) can and do change over time. You will not alter, modify, or tamper with these dynamic IP address(es) or those of any other customer. You agree not to use a dynamic domain name server or DNS to associate a host name with the dynamic IP address(es) for any commercial purpose. You also agree not to use any software on or in conjunction with any computer(s) or network device connected to the Service that provides for static IP address(es). If applicable, Comcast will release and/or recover the dynamic IP address(es) upon disconnection, discontinuance, or termination of the Service or this Agreement.


It appears as though you can d/l but not u/l

That doesn't mean anything regarding your ability to use Limewire. That's just the standard "If we catch you, you're screwed" message. The only thing that actually seems to be prevented is registering a domain to your assigned IP number. (You could of course assign a domain to your Personal Web Page space though)

As far as my experience, Comcast doesn't actually block any ports, ot filter P2P in any way. The only thing they do is state that doing anything with P2P is naughty, by doing so you're supporting the terrorists, and you will go to hell.

OK, so I'm paraphrasing.

OK, so I'm paraphrasing a LOT...

archaeum September 21st, 2005 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RoninBK
That doesn't mean anything regarding your ability to use Limewire. That's just the standard "If we catch you, you're screwed" message. The only thing that actually seems to be prevented is registering a domain to your assigned IP number. (You could of course assign a domain to your Personal Web Page space though)

As far as my experience, Comcast doesn't actually block any ports, ot filter P2P in any way. The only thing they do is state that doing anything with P2P is naughty, by doing so you're supporting the terrorists, and you will go to hell.

OK, so I'm paraphrasing.

OK, so I'm paraphrasing a LOT...

well, comcast may not be blocking my ports...but no matter what i try on my belkin wireless router, be it port-forwarding, turning off NAT, or even disabling my firewall entirely, i just cant get the damned firewall to go away!

my problems first started in KaZaA, then i switched to Shareaza, and that worked wonderfully for quite a while, but then out of the blue all it'll DL from is eDonkey clients, which have enormous and unreasonable queues (?lol?)...so now i have transitioned to LW and its very satisfying in terms of search speeds and results (even though ive seen the same filenames on Shareaza; it uses Gnutella as well) but i just cant get the damned firewall thing to go away!!!! I H8 BELKIN!

Wild Peach October 3rd, 2005 05:44 PM

Here's another to add to the list: Bellsouth which services the Southeastern U.S. Their official position is as follows (it's a tad long, bear with them):

There has been considerable publicity recently concerning copyright owner complaints of the wide spread problem of unlawful sharing and downloading of music and video files over the Internet. If you are copying music like Norah Jones recent Grammy's-winning CD, movies, or other copyrighted material over the Internet without the copyright owner's permission, you may be breaking the law!

In your BellSouth® Internet Service Service Agreement, you agreed not to transmit or publish on or over the BellSouth Internet Service any information, software, or other content that violates or infringes upon the rights of any others or to use the facilities or capabilities of our Internet Service to conduct any activity that is prohibited by law. Your use of our Internet Service is also governed by BellSouth's Acceptable Use Policies ("AUPs"), which are posted online behind the "Legal Notices" link at the bottom of the home page of the Service. Our AUPs specifically prohibit:

Failing to obtain all required permissions to receive, upload, download, display, distribute, reproduce, use, make, sell, perform or execute a program, copyrighted content or other works protected by intellectual property laws. Violations of the above terms may result in a demand by BellSouth for immediate removal of the offending material, blocked access, suspension or termination of your Service. Furthermore, with regard to certain allegations of intellectual property infringement involving such activities, BellSouth, as an Internet Service Provider (ISP), may be required to release, under the subpoena provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), identification information about you, our subscriber, to a copyright holder who could then use that information to bring legal action against you.

As a general rule the subscriber is the copyright owner of any file that subscriber solely creates for his or her own exclusive use. The copyright to any other file (such as software programs, music and video files created by others) is typically owned by its creator, by commercial vendors, or by other individual users, and it is generally illegal for the subscriber to reproduce such file in any part or in any form, except by permission of such copyright owner or under an appropriate statutory exception. If you do not have such permission and do not already know if you fall into one of the statutory exceptions, you may be violating the terms of your Service Agreement with BellSouth and engaging in unlawful activity that could lead to any of the adverse actions described above. It is your responsibility to satisfy yourself that you are acting lawfully before engaging in any file sharing activities when using your BellSouth Internet Service.


So they're going to rat us out, but after checking out the forums and running the tests, they are blocking, it's a conspiracy, but I'll try to be the last man standing. Smoke 'em if you got 'em! A big shout out to LOTR, UK Bob, Grandpa and Billabong...missed you guys, but I'm back!

KWolf October 17th, 2005 09:06 PM

COX
 
COX HSI

In most markets now, especially the California markets, gnutella uploads are blocked. If you look at your connections, they either send a small amount of data and are aborted, or are aborted before they even start.

Also, in Humboldt County (Eureka area), Bittorrent is severely throttled. You can not even reach steady 56k speeds on torrents there.

Sony465 October 20th, 2005 07:03 PM

Halo 3
 
get Peer Guardian 2

DarkSorrow October 20th, 2005 07:13 PM

Quote:

you agreed not to transmit or publish on or over the BellSouth Internet Service any information, software, or other content that violates or infringes upon the rights of any others or to use the facilities or capabilities of our Internet Service to conduct any activity that is prohibited by law. Your use of our Internet Service is also governed by BellSouth's Acceptable Use Policies ("AUPs"), which are posted online behind the "Legal Notices" link at the bottom of the home page of the Service.
HUH?? their terms didnt make sense on this one

Quote:

Failing to obtain all required permissions to receive, upload, download, display, distribute, reproduce, use, make, sell, perform or execute a program, copyrighted content or other works protected by intellectual property laws. Violations of the above terms may result in a demand by BellSouth for immediate removal of the offending material, blocked access, suspension or termination of your Service. Furthermore, with regard to certain allegations of intellectual property infringement involving such activities, BellSouth, as an Internet Service Provider (ISP), may be required to release, under the subpoena provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), identification information about you, our subscriber, to a copyright holder who could then use that information to bring legal action against you.
Back up the truck right there, BS said "not to transmit or publish" which means you can download the file. They didnt say anything about downloading. Surely they did on second quote, but they didnt say YOU AGREED NOT TO DOWNLOAD.....

RIAA/MPAA is twisting too much words about copyrights.

tinalessia October 23rd, 2005 11:48 PM

tele2 in italy?
 
Does anyone know if my port 6346 could be blocked by tele 2 in Italy? Only recently that we've had problems. Again like others says it's connecting, but nothing happens. Any advice in simple terms :D ? Thanks in Advance, Tina

DarkSorrow October 24th, 2005 07:27 AM

Re: tele2 in italy?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tinalessia
Does anyone know if my port 6346 could be blocked by tele 2 in Italy? Only recently that we've had problems. Again like others says it's connecting, but nothing happens. Any advice in simple terms :D ? Thanks in Advance, Tina
yes it simple, just use a different port, dont use the ports that the program is using. use a available/unused port

tinalessia October 24th, 2005 08:38 AM

thank you for your response, but how exactly do i know which port number to use?

Lord of the Rings October 24th, 2005 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tinalessia
thank you for your response, but how exactly do i know which port number to use?
See my response to listening port numbers? & there's also A Guide To Alternative Port Selection

revsrealm November 12th, 2005 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedZ71
I'm not absolutley possitive but i believe Vista III Media blocks or filters the P2P Because i have tried everything in the forum and nothing works. I called to check and they say they dont but why would they want you to no. If anyone has any ideas on how to help me please let me know i have a thread on slow downloads.
...Having the same issue w/ Vista III...don't know the answer



EDIT: I had to call tech support b/c my linksys router wouldn't work. asked about firewalls and things of that nature...guy didn't have much of an answer, but decided my router wouldn't read my modem. so, he did something, and now, i have full use of Limewire...for now! I had to reset my router, also, b/c of the error.

wortman3000 November 17th, 2005 03:08 AM

Hi,

I'm currently using Limewire Pro on my University Halls of Residence internet connection. We run at a sweet 10mbps. Perfect for using limewire. The only catch is...the server runs a permanent automatic monitoring service that watches all traffic in and out. I suspect that this monitoring service detects use of the Gnutella network and automatically cancels our internet connection for a week if we are ever caught. IS THERE ANYWAY TO ENCRYPT DATA PACKETS GOING IN AND OUT SO THAT THE NETWORK MONITOR CAN'T DETECT THEM?? I have looked into the possibility of setting up an SSH Tunnel, or perhaps changing to a different proxy. I am still too new at this game to try and do it myself and risk losing my internet connection permanently. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS??? I am desperate to liberate my hall from this oppression haha...i'm a big fan of having the freedom to share music with the world.

Thanks to anyone who can help

Lachlan

SqueezyCheese November 18th, 2005 04:39 PM

Rogers / Yahoo seems to disconnect me after using limewire for about 15 minutes. the internet in my house goes completely dead for an hour or two.

jeffy1980 December 28th, 2005 02:57 PM

MICROLNK.com
 
I just got off the phone with my isp www.microlnk.com and asked why my limewire wasn't working anymore and they told me they blocked the ports for limewire and all bittorent downloading. This just isnt right. Its a fairly small ISP that offers wireless service for rural areas. I want to know what I can do about this!! Any feedback appreciated

shaman8919 January 2nd, 2006 01:03 PM

TISCLI USERS WATCH OUT
 
they have this fair usage policy and if u download too much between 6pm - 11pm weekdays and 12pm - 4pm weekends they cut your download rate to like 2kb/s so dont do heavy usage too much in that time frame they send you a warning e-mail or 4 though

FreeStuffRules! January 25th, 2006 07:04 AM

ClearWire Blocks LimeWire
 
I just got off the phone with ClearWire Communications, and they confirmed that they DO "manage & monitor" (block) port 6346. :mad:

From their Terms of Service: "We may, but do not have to, block information, transmissions or access to certain information, services, products or domains to protect us, our network, the public or our users."


Oh, well as long as they're doing this to "protect" me. :rolleyes:

UPDATE: I had a Clearwire technician out to my house, and he stated that as of about 2 weeks ago (around the middle of January) the Eugene office installed a Cisco P-Cube. This is a P2P-blocking piece of hardware that many ISPs are using, and Clearwire is installing at all their offices nationwide to limit file sharing. Information about the P-Cube can be found online, specifically at P-Cubes website: http://www.p-cube.com/products/serviceEngine.shtml

mudroads April 10th, 2006 01:56 AM

Pipex
 
PIPEX have confirmed on the phone that they manage download speeds for P2P software. They do this during off peak times as well, i.e. all the time, but gave no reason. Before this change my download speeds were around 110K/sec - now they are 5 times slower, at about 22K/sec maximum.

shan53168 August 13th, 2006 06:41 AM

Virgin
 
I sometimes have problems with virgin when using limewire. It disconnects during download, i try to reconnect while lw is open to no avail. When i close lw and try to reconnect it works. Anyone else have any probs with this isp?

ukbobboy01 August 13th, 2006 07:48 AM

shan53168

I changed from Virgin to Bulldog because of Virgin's unannounced policy of P2P traffic shaping, i.e. killing off P2P while allowing surfing and non-P2P downloads.

I found that I could no longer download films or film clips and that I could only occasionally get the odd MP3. So after about 4 months of this nonsense I changed to Bulldog.

Before Virgin’s policy change I would have said that Virgin, despite it’s higher than normal monthly subscription, was one of the best ISPs in the UK and I would have been more than happy to stay with them. But Virgin decided that it did not want anymore P2P traffic on it’s network while still charging premium prices, so I changed ISPs.



UK Bob

shan53168 August 13th, 2006 08:58 AM

Thanks Bob,

I've only been with virgin a month, and havent had too many probs yet, may give it a few weeks but may keep a look out for other isps. We're on the max plan. Did you get hit by the 50 quid charge for cancelling within 6 mths? Im leaving at the end of the year, so not sure whether to hold out or change.

ukbobboy01 August 13th, 2006 09:42 AM

shan53168

You asked:
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Did you get hit by the 50 quid charge for cancelling within 6 mths? I'm leaving at the end of the year
No, because I started using Virgin sometime ago, back in the dim a distant dial up days, so I was not caught by their current range of restrictions.


UK Bob

midnight_blue October 10th, 2006 05:56 AM

I'm convinced that BT (British Telecom) are restricting use of P2P during the day. I can't get the usual Gnutella ports (6436 - 6348) to work at all, and shifting to another port sometimes only seems to work for a short while before downloads either slow to a crawl or stop altogether. Other times other ports seem OK albeit downloads are slower than normal. From about midnight I can download with no problem, mornings can be hit and miss. Other people I know who use BT and LW have noticed similar things.

There's nothing official and BT have a dreadful customer service helpdesk that it's not worth the effort contacting them. But this problem has existed for a while now

priapos October 12th, 2006 12:55 PM

HOL traffic shaping
 
adding Hellas On Line (HOL)....blocks all p2p activity to rediculus speeds...

Dig It October 27th, 2006 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings
There's many ways an isp or business such as a university can block or filter p2p. It may apply to speeds, or blocking of ports or programs or making certain p2p clients illegal (unauthorised) on their system.

Endless Splendors check thru the proxies options b/c there's mention of various ports you might be able to use there. Another way to find out if a port is blocked is to test various port no.'s
This simple test is for port 6346. Using your browser go here: http://www3.limewire.com:6346/ The page should say 'Your test worked!'. What happens when you go there? If you can't get the page loaded then port 6346 is blocked.
Another simple test. Keep LW open!!! & then, using your browser go here: http://www.grc.com/port_6346.htm (Press Probe this port button) Does it say open or closed? If closed then set the test for a different port number. ie: type in the port no. in the space next to the jump button then press jump. Then do the test of the new port no. (perhaps best if your firewall is temporarily disabled or test with it (a) on & (b) off, same applies for NAT modems/routers to test directly by (c) by-passing these devices & (d) also with them.) Another test is to use http://koti.mbnet.fi/gfactory/ctest/ where you can test various ports but likewise you need to have LW open at the time for some strange reason!!!

(If the result comes back as Stealth then: There are only two valid responses a port can give when it is scanned: "open" and "closed". A port is considered "stealth" when it doesn't respond to a request at all. All the GRC port scanner does is fire packets out at your ports. If your port answers back, it will be listed as either "open" or "closed". if your firewall prevents your computer from answering back to GRC's port scanner, the port will be listed as "stealth".)


Ok, hoop - jumped. What is stealth supposed to mean?
(Edit) ok, sorry. I think I get it NOW. All I had to do was actually notice your fine print and read it many times. Between that and me, well, it took some doing.....

midnight_blue November 15th, 2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by midnight_blue
I'm convinced that BT (British Telecom) are restricting use of P2P during the day. I can't get the usual Gnutella ports (6436 - 6348) to work at all, and shifting to another port sometimes only seems to work for a short while before downloads either slow to a crawl or stop altogether. Other times other ports seem OK albeit downloads are slower than normal. From about midnight I can download with no problem, mornings can be hit and miss. Other people I know who use BT and LW have noticed similar things.

There's nothing official and BT have a dreadful customer service helpdesk that it's not worth the effort contacting them. But this problem has existed for a while now

I now know that BT are blocking p2p, I've come back to use Limewire for the first time in nearly a month and it's the same response - I can't connect.

I think it's time to add BT to the list of ISP's that are blocking Gnutella. Ah, well...

Lord of the Rings November 15th, 2006 03:25 PM

Try at different times of the day. Some ISP's in the UK are blocking or shaping p2p only during certain times of the day (peak periods.) UKBobboy01 knows of some UK ISP's that don't shape p2p bandwidth at all.

Also, try a different port to connect through. Try one between 49152 - 65535. A good one to try is 64049. ie: go to LW's menu bar, Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewalls & change both the connection & listening ports. Actually just try changing the listening port initially. If no good, change connection port also.

brh986 November 24th, 2006 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lalunadeladia
I am also experiencing the same connection issues where LW just says "Connecting..." and never does anything more. I've tried all sorts of things mentioned in the posts, and I think maybe verizon is blocking port 6346. Is that possible? I've also tried using proxies to get around that, and it's not working.
What am I to do?? Lime wire was working fine a couple days ago.

I have Verizon Fios and I'm having alot of problems with gnutella. I was using bearshare and the performance was getting worse and worse. Certain files never work or the download will start and run slowly and then die. I find that small files work more often. Also if I were to que up maybe 50 large files and then leave my computer on for a day or two eventually I get some of them but not all.

I thought perhaps the version of bearshare was outdated so I tried limewire (which I also know to be clean of spyware - bonus) but limewire doesn't work at all. I pick files with lots of sources and a four star quality but ti doesn't matter. They just sit there for every and either never connect or say more sources needed which it never finds. I never see any uploads going out either. Bearshare always worked with uploads disabled or if I enabled it a ton of files would upload just fine. If I turn the search monitor on in limewire I see incoming searchs and I can search files but that's all I can do.

I have a routed but my p2p computer is set as the DMZ.

What I don't understand is if all they're doing is blocking the port why I can't just change it and have it work. I've tried changing the ports in limewire but it doesn't work.

Does anyone have any ideas?

brh986 November 24th, 2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings
Try at different times of the day. Some ISP's in the UK are blocking or shaping p2p only during certain times of the day (peak periods.) UKBobboy01 knows of some UK ISP's that don't shape p2p bandwidth at all.

Also, try a different port to connect through. Try one between 49152 - 65535. A good one to try is 64049. ie: go to LW's menu bar, Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewalls & change both the connection & listening ports. Actually just try changing the listening port initially. If no good, change connection port also.

What are the defaults? I changed mine and want to go back (I didn't try changing them seperately) but I don't want to reset all my settings to default. Thanks.

Lord of the Rings November 24th, 2006 06:47 PM

Default is port 6346. At least that is the "official" gnutella port. But if you were connecting via UPnP then it may select any port it finds available.


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