How do I know if I'm behind a router??
 

And what is a router?

are you a LAN or do you have a modem?

I think I have LAN.

Router Question
 

Junior Member lolol

You asked:Apart from network workers, routers and they're existence are completely invisible to most users. They are essential to how all LANs, WANs, the Internet and all types of networks but to the ordinary user they do not register.

You also asked:Read this:Router - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


UK Bob

Oh okay.
How would I get Limewire to work then, because all of my firewalls are off, and I still only have 1 bar for the connection.
And I don't think a router has anything to do with it, lol.

First of all, give us a comprehensive list of your equipment, no one can give you a sensible answer without it, click on the link and get back to us with your info.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/connec...tml#post235237



UK Bob

1. OS version? Windows XP
2. What firewalls you have?Windows Firewall and CA Firewall
3. How much ram?Uh, idk what it means.
4. Hard Disk space available?Alot
5. Connection type? Broadband
6. Modem & router brand name & model numbers?Uhh...
7. Where are you trying to connect from (house, appartment complex, school, student accomodation, work, etc.)?House
8. What version of LimeWire (LW) & Java do you have? (Go to LW's menu Help>About LW...) Will show both LW & Java version. Limewire:4.14.8 Java:1.6.0_02
9. Who is your ISP (Internet Service Provider)?Westell, or Cannon Valley?
10. Do this simple test for us. Using your browser go here: http://www3.limewire.com:6346/ The page should say 'Your test worked!'. What happens when you go there?The page can't be displayed.
11. Are you sharing the connection with other computers or p2p sharing programs? If yes, please give details of set up. No, I'm not.
12. Is this a your 1st try at LW or is this a new problem with an experienced user. I've tried downloading it before, but it did the same thing as it is now.
13. Do you see a brick wall in front of the blue world icon at the bottom of LW's interface?Yes, I do. And all of my firewalls are off.
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/attach...1&d=1158099342
14. For those using a modem/router, how is your modem/router set up...are you port forwarding or is UPnP enabled?Uh, I don't think I have one??
15. What security programs are you using (antivirus etc)? Some people might not be aware that their security suite includes a firewall :)CA Security Center, Firewall, Anti-virus, Anti-Spyware
16. What country are you living in? Sometimes there are ISPs with the same name in more than one country (eg Clearwire in the USA & also in Ireland). In the USA.

Router Question
 

I am
assuming you are at home. If there is a "box" on the line running from the "jack" on the wall to your computer, it is a router, also called modem/router.

The router itself is basically a device that allows more than one computer in a house to share the same connection to the internet. Employing a router changes the status of your connection from a single user, becoming a "network".

Say, for instance, you and another person in your house have a computer. If you are both connected to the internet, you have your own private network. (I'm trying to keep this simple, and I hope other readers here won't start with the abstracts).

You have a variety of options in this "network". You can both share the connection, with no access to each other's computer, or you can enable "file and printer sharing" to any limit you want.

In a parent - child setup, you might see that the parent has total control of his child's computer - Daddy can be sitting at his own computer, and actually see what his kid is doing, upload files to his kid's machine, download files from his kids machine, restrict/deny access to the internet, or certain sites, and so on, and yet the child can't even "see" or access Daddy's computer.

Or, in the abstract, teh kid could be a real techno-geek and run a sub routine that could make Daddy believe that he has control, while the kid is really surfing all the porno sites, or web - camming with some girlfriends from their machines doing, well, what Mommy and Daddy wouldn't be too happy about.

The funny thing is, Daddy is probably doing the same thing himself!

But I digress. Hell, Daddy could even be in the same -... well, let's not go there.

What was your question? Oh, yea. Routers. At the base level, they simply conrol and direct traffic on the same line (network).

Chances are, if you have hi-speed internet service from (among others), your cable TV company, or phone company, the technician installed a router.

Do you need a router if you are the only person in your house? Depending on your service provider, no. I have FIOS (fiber) service, and I am running straight out of my ONU. (Optical Network Unit - Don't ask, it will just make this reply longer.) Alright, it converts the light beam running thru the fiber into a digital pulse.

I do not know anything about CATV, so I cannot speak for them. With my service, I don't use a modem, I use an ETHERNET card. Well, in a way it's like a phone modem, just like a spear is to a cruise missle. Just a little more Hi-Tech.

ADVANTAGES/DISADVANTAGES USING A ROUTER ON A SINGLE LINE

They can be a real pain in the *** to configure, and innacuarate configurations could kill your connection speeds. If your computer can't "talk" to the router, well, it ain't going out to play. It's just another door you have to go thru.

BUT>>>> A Router is also a "hardware firewall". There is no software firewall that will even compete with the protection it offers... IF YOU HAVE IT CONFIGURED CORRECTLY. A hardware firewall keeps the bad guys from "knocking at your door". They can't even "walk up to your house", because they can't see you. :cantseeyou: IF IT IS CONFIGURED CORRECTLY. It's really not all that complicated, really, but this is turning into a seminar.

A SOFTWARE FIREWALL, such as Zone Alarm, Commodo, Windows Firewall :rofl: ... Symantec, :puke: .... the Mexican Border..
With a software firewall, the bad guys are already at your door. If they can find you. The point is, they are aleady at your door. And if they are persistant enough, they will find a way in. You have to realize that you have like, 65000 doors (ports) to protect. Not including open/hidden sockets, ET phoning home, King George (Bush) and his friends, among others. :paranoid:

I am getting way way :offtopic1:

Damn, reading this novel is probably enough to force you to go out and do drugs.

And I probably didn't answer your question.

You must strat learning about your PC equipment
 

Lolol

The questions that you have answewred "huh" to shows that you are in deep trouble, you are going to have to learn about them or hire someone to sort your equipment out.

OK, now you need to click the link below and follow the instructions to Bmxguy in my previous post. However, may I suggest that you dig out your modem manual first of all and read through it two or three times or at least until you can understand what you are reading:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/connec...tml#post285776

Good Luck



UK Bob

Can't we all just be friends? (attrib: rodney king)
 

Methinks you are a bit rough there, buddy. Everybody is a nooby at one point, and it is only the decent thing to do to be polite and patient.

Actually, I don't think P2P activity is something noobies should be jumping into; Hell, you say ram and they say ewe.

CPU? Oh, do you mean C3PO?

Disk Space? Yea, I saw 2001... it was trippin..

Bytes/Bits? Wow, can we use handcuffs, too?

And then they have to understand ports, routers, Hips software, and so on.

UNderstanding how to query; recognising bogus crap right on the spot..., the value of bitzi; how big (or small) the file they're looking for should be;

Configuring LW to compliment their broadband (or 56Kbs - ouch) service...

Where and where not to let fellow p2pers pry; man, it must be just overwhelming for these virgins to roam the streets by themselves.

Maybe, instead of flaming, you should have some prepared responses and suggestions saved in Notepad... where you could just paste ur answer, or redirect them to some of the excellent "tutorials" posted and linked to by some excellent moderators, ie, LordoftheRings.


Hey, drugs ain't that bad, either, for taking the edge off things... (like your life).

Personally, I just developed a craving for an ice cold pilsner... I'm running to the bar right now.