Very few uploads compared to earlier versions
 

I've used Limewire for a few years now, and have the latest 2.7.3 Pro version, and I've noticed that now I get almost no one uploading. I can be on for several hours and have less than a dozen uploaded files. Yet some files show 2000 hits in the library area. I used to have to limit my uploads, due to a lot of uploads. Now I don't get hardly any. Why is this. I know they can get through, because I am getting some uploads, but no where near the amount I used to get. I like sharing with others, and wonder if this hinders others from having access to all thats out there.

I came today to the forumn for the same reason. Why are so few people able to upload from me. I've got a cable connection with a router and over 2400 titles. If I can't share, I kow that is why some of my downloads fail or are slow.

NO UPLOADS!!
 

Well, I'm glad I'm not alone. I wonder whether this is a common problem because of the version of Limewire. I'm using LimeWire Pro 2.7.7 and it seems that this all began when I went to Pro. Is this common or not.

I would like to share my files, but something's amiss, and I can't.

Is there a common thread or an answer?

Streamlining Downloads
 

The queing feature actually improved the performance on your side of things. When your slots are busy the requests are queued.


"So what's the use of queueing?

- It prevents a "bombardment" of download and retry attempts. Each attempt, it needs to send out the "503" error message. Although it seems little, a popular file can cause a lot of these requests and eat a bit of the available bandwidth, and available incomming ports (should there be a limit, depending on, say, firewall, proxy, bandwidth throtling systems). If it is queued, the client doesn't need to retry but simply wait...

- It gives the end-user a visual representation when to expect the file. With current "retries", the end user just knows he or she will NOT receive the file at all, until at least a successful retry. Most likely, he'll start clicking more of the similar results and try those, maybe ending up with 20 possible servers, creating the previous scenario. When it is queued, the end user will know that his request was successful, the file is indeed available on the server, and there's a greater chance the server will send it to him once the server is ready to do so.

- It allows a single file to be queued at multiple servers."

http://www.leeware.com

so what does this have to do with my orginal question?
 

I don't see that the above post has ANYTHING to do with my original question. I can download just fine, although I am convinced that I am receiving fewer search results on the same topic. And I am receiving a few uploads, but no where near the amount I used to under previous Limewire versions. Uploads now are almost non-existant.

Actually It has a lot do with your question I believe that you made a reference that since you've upgraded you've received less uploads.

As a file distributor I noticed since upgrading the downloads have been more streamlined. (which means I don't get clobbered with download request but instead I end up providing a constant stream of downloads.)

So, subjectively it would lead me to believe that I am receiving fewer downloads when in fact I am providing more successful downloads consistently.

This of course in constrast to have all of my upload slots on all of my servers full with people ATTEMPTING to download from me.

Please read the following post as more people take this advice and if your box has to push files out, your results could just be filtered on the searcher side. Which means that you will return results but will receive very few actual download requests as your results will not appear as a hit in the downloaders servent.

This information is being offered as a POSSIBILITY to your problem. So IMHO it has everything to do with your question/statements.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=17321

Hope this helps.

Nothing works
 

Fine. I forced my IP address, which I don't think is the problem, because it never was before. In fact, I use Zonealarm, and after I tell it to allow Limewire, it's as if ZA doesn't even exist for that program. I know that, because I have asked people in chat if my address shows up as red or black, and they say black. Nothing has changed on my PC since I first started using LW, except their new versions. So I don't know what the problem is, except what I have said before, that my PC is on for at least four hours, and i get over 1,000 hits on some files, and less than 6 downloads total, last night, none. Under older versions, I would have had 200 or more in 4 hours. So who is losing out with this NEW technoligy?

I assume you read the last part of the following thread.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=17321


Essentially if people are taking this advice then they are filtering results for firewalled hosts on the remote end. Which means that if I did a search for files contained on your computer -- you would see the hits register but results from your computer would not show up in my search results because I indicated in my configuration that I don't want to see results from hosts that are behind firewalls.

So no results = no downloads. Now if you think that this has something to do with limewire simply roll back to a previous version and test. Please post your results we would be interested in hearing them.

LeeWare, help!
 

I have been using LimeWire for several months and had no trouble either downloading files from others or allowing others to download from me.
Last week, however, I installed Mac OS 10.2.1, and thereafter I have had only a couple of uploads, both of which failed--"transfer interrupted".
I came to these forums in search of support and happily found your post, which ends with this tip:
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If you are using NAT (meaning that the IP address of your machine is 10.x.x.x or 192.x.x.x ) now, might be able to connect, search and download from the network but no one will be able to upload from you. If you have taken the advise of others to force your IP using limewire then your half way there, as your port forwarding is working correctly. But, you need to FORCE THE IP OF YOUR ROUTER or FIREWALL to the network. To find out what your ip is from the machine that you use to get on Gnutella open a web browser to http://www.whatismyip.com
(write this IP down and force this IP in Limewire) If you need help testing this Just post a reply to this thread.
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So I went to System Preferences/Share/Firewall, where I noticed my network IP is 192.x.x.x. The firewall was not turned on (ie. "not in use", it says.). But I clicked on the button to enable Gnutella/Limewire anyway.
Then I went to LimeWire preferences, as you suggested, and forced the normal IP I had been using 61.x.x.x. (I typed in the IP# and checked the "Force IP" box.
Nonetheless, I still have no one downloading from me. Is there something else I need to do? (I don't follow the meaing of Router. I have an 8 megabyte per/sec modem that has Lan/Router, but I don't know if that's a problem.
I have searched this forum using key words but cannot find any answers. The FAQ didn't seem to answer it, and neither could I find help on the Mac OS X forum, though it must be a problem encountered by other Mac OS 10.2 users as well.
Can you help me, please?
Masa

Re: LeeWare, help!
 

Forcing my IP worked for me getting more uploads now!! Thanks Leeware (someone should create a tutorial??)

no uploads just Hits (thousands of hits 0 uploads (none))
 

Just wanted to say I am having the same problem with LimeWire Pro. No uploads, but thousands of hits, no firewall involved, just a cable(Comcast) connection using OS 9.1. I want to share, but receiving no answers just blank
looks from the experts on this question. There is a problem Houston, how about a solution? I really really want so share, is it Comcast cable that is the problem?

Re: LeeWare, help!
 

You need to go to the site whatsmyip.com make a note of the ip address shown on the web page and then force that ip in limewire. Regarding the transfer interrupted message usually means that the person on the remote end disconnect from the network abruptly.

Regarding the router, when you connect to the internet you do so in the following fashion.

YourPC_192.168.x.x-->Router_192.168.x.y/Public_Side_ip?

The private ip is how your machine communicates with the router (192.168.x.x) The router has two interfaces one on your private network (in your house) and one on the public Internet. It's this ip that people need in order to download from you.


Hope this helps.

Ditto Above!
 

I live in Houston and still can't solve the problem.

Lots querys going bye, but no uploads. :(

Re: LeeWare, help!
 

Go to my website http://www.leeware.com click the contact us button select an email address and send me the IP address reported by what's my ip also send me the name of some files you are sharing and I will attempt to download from you. Also post a message here indicating that you have sent me the email so that I can connect to some servers and look for your machine on the network.

hope this helps.....

reply with my ip and some files I share
 

I sent you a e-mail at Wisdom@LeeWare.com

with my ip and some files I am sharing in my library.

Thanks for your help, LeeWare
 

Thank you for your help.
I have e-mailed my IP (asking for wisdom!)@
Masa

LeeWare: Me too Please!
 

Email sent to your Wisdom email with my IP and two files I am sharing.

Thanks in Advance.

:D

I got your email. Thanks Give me a few minutes to get access to a machine so that I can look for your files.

Regarding Ultrapeers
 

Regarding Ultrapeer shielding -

The message about the ultrapeers - Means that you will be shielded from the bulk of the search traffic on the network. I believe that Limewire is using something called QRP (Query Routing Protocol)

Your computer sends a list of files it is sharing to the ultrapeers you connect to. These ultrapeers use this list to determine what queries should be forwarded to your computer

Hope this helps.

http://www.leeware.com

Very Few Uploads compared to earlier versions
 

Good work. Lee; you are helping a lot of people with your advice. Hope your business grows ten-fold based on your new presence on the forum

Test Results -- For the people who sent me file and ip information.

I could not use my machines to do the queries as they are busy handling upload requests. I used a friends machine and expanded my search horizon as far as I could and I looked for the files people posted.

In one case, I found the files and the Computer without issue. It returned (****) star results. I verified that the machine was indeed reachable by sending ICMP message to the host in which I received replies. I attempted to download and immediately received a requery send message. (Which essentially means that the file is not available from the machine that reported the hit.)

I repeated my query several times and got hits from the machine -- however each time I attempted to download I got a requery message.

I suggest rolling back to a previous version and we can test again.

In the other cases the files were generally named and returned a lot of results. After filtering out all of the hosts I would not any results from the Ips sent to me.

you seem pretty clever!
 

could you tell me why my mac limewire downloads mp3's
but they are actually documents which i can't play?
thankz in advance for any help!!
wyz

Thanks for the kind wishes -- I just like to help people and I think that the spirit of collaboration has been lost with the commercialization of the Internet. This is just my way of trying to make a difference in support of what I would like to think of as a technology that reminds us (or at least me) how technology can be used to bring people together in ways that would have never been possible.

I make no profits for my efforts In fact, it costs money for me to do what I do. But I guess this is because I work in the industry and can afford to do so.



I see it as an opportunity to do something priceless.

Thanks again.

Re: you seem pretty clever!
 

It sounds like a file association problem. I am personally not a mac user but I think
that you recently installed a program on your system that associated your files with
a different application.

One thing to check is - Can you play any mp3s (meaning ones not download with Limewire?)

yes i can play other mp3 's
strange?
i used to be able to get them fine ;
but now there just plain documents
bummer!
thanx for your help lee....
if you suggest anything i could try or whatever

To: LeeWare From: Masa
 

A big thanks to you for taking the time to help.
Through the night, all the uploads I had gotten said "transfer interrupted" and, while I know you said it was them cutting off, it seems almost too much of a coincidence that everyone would change their mind after starting to download, especially since my upload speed is not a problem. Anyway, I took the advice you provided this morning, and I have been bombarded with uploads all day long--more than I remember ever getting even in the beginning. I guess I'm a player again. Thanks. You're quite a guy!
Masa

'transfer interrupted' downloads aren't a huge deal - lots of clients actually abort purposely, because they've downloaded everything they want.

but, as far as getting lots more uploads now.. what was it that you actually did? it might be possible to build it into the system...

I do thank lee for his help, but I have had no luck
 

Okay, I've forced my IP, then actually turned Zonealarm off, and left the machine on for the evening. The result?? 4 uploads. I agree, I guess I need to roll back to an earlier version, just to test things out. The point I have been trying to make, is that I have the SAME computer, the SAME cable connection, a CORRECT IP address. Nothing has changed on my end, except using a newer version of LW. I would hope that the software developers, in their genuine effort to improve the program, haven't inadvertantly created a bug in the upload area. Because that's the way I view it.

Yup! That's the way I see it too. Everything is exactly the same, and unfortunately, I can't roll back to an earlier version. (Or can I; where can I get an earlier version?) Nonetheless, maybe LW developers need to jump in here and do something about this.

Re: I do thank lee for his help, but I have had no luck
 

If you got four uploads that's a good start. I assume that they were successful uploads x/y in this uploads column the x would indicate a completed uploads the y indicates an attempted upload. As for obtaining a previous version of Limewire. I've seen it shared on the network. (Be careful with these could be hacked!) If you guys are using the pro-version I would try to contact limewire directly as I believe they do offer some support for those who paid for it.


Good luck - hope this helps.

Very Few Uploads compared to earlier versions
 

I think everyone needs to be careful about forcing your IP address. You are, in fact, broadcasting to the entire net and thereby possibly opening your computer up to invasion by all the nasties out there. It's possible, so be careful.

A Word About Security
 

Technically you are not broadcasting your IP address onto the Internet. That language is suggestive and it leads people to believe that their boxes (computers) are actively shouting the ip addresses to the Internet. This is not true. In context, when you force your IP address in LimeWire you are forcing the ip address of your firewall/router (which is NOT your computer!) -Remember this is why no one could upload from you.

Your IP for your computer is probably 192.168.0.x --->router/firewalls-ip->(172.15.x.x.) <- this ip is always public whether you force it or not.

Now, what does happen is this-- when people search for files on Limewire your machine not only returns a lists of files it has but it also returns the ip of where to get those files from, people who have their Limewire software configured to show location can see the ip address of the machines returning the results but, pay attention even if you hide this information a download request would show the ip during the transfer!

Note: Some people fall into the trap of thinking that an ICMP message is the only way someone can tell if a machine is alive or not. This about it this way ICMP message work like this:

Bob is standing in a dark closet. (Your machine on the network!)
Pete is looking or Bob. (Potentially a hacker:-( )
Pete says Bob are you there? (someone looking to see if a machine is alive (ICMP -> PING))
Bob replies Yes I'm here. (i.e. your machine responding to a query=ICMP PING)

The End Now, when you cut off ICMP messages the converstation stops because Bob doesn't respond to Pete.

But, for several years now that more and more machine are not responding (stealth scanning -been around for a while has basically made not responding some what useless in attempt to hide a machine from remote probing.)

Consider our story:

Bob is standing in a dark closet. (Your machine on the network!)
Pete is looking or Bob. (Potentially a hacker:-( )
Pete Throws a Brick in the closet! (someone sending specially formatted data to your computer.)
Bob replies Ouch! (someone listing to the responses!)

Are you safer?


A complete discussion of security is beyond the scope of this thread but the last poster does correctly point out a concern that I am confident has been overlooked by many file-sharers and that is basic computer security.

For those of you that are interested I highly recommend that you do the following:

Goto http://www.dslreports.com/scan

use the tool to scan your machine. If the report comes back with open services that you don't understanding please post your concerns here and I'll help you get that resolved. If the report shows that you have open disks + services send me an email at security(remove_the_no_spam)@leeware.com and I will provide you with some help and information on securing your connection.


Thanks for your cooperation and I hope this helps.

Lee, I've done it ALL.
 

Okay, I have installed LW 2.7.13. I have tuned off Zonealarm. I then went to another PC in my house and tried to access a file that was on my other PC. I found that file, and my IP address was shown in black, indicating no firewall problems. But when I highlighted my IP address, and clicked to download it, it immediately went into the Requerey mode. And I had no other uploads going on that PC. So why can't I access my PC ( i.e. share files with others) when everything looks good?

I assume both your computers are using the same internet connection via router? In that case you will not be able to download from yourself. Don't worry, others will still be able to download from you.

Never more than 8 downloads per evening
 

Yeah, but, I'm the one who posted all the previous post's as unregistered. I do not understand why on older versions of Limewire I would have 100+ uploads per evening, and now have 8 or less. The system depends on sharing, which I like to do. So I'm trying to figure out what has changed that makes that appear to not happen anymore. Read all the above posts, and you will see what I mean.

Well - you can't force others to download from you and the newer version has no upload/download bugs I know of.

Well - you can't force others to download from you. The new version at least does not have any upload/download bugs I know of...

Re: Lee, I've done it ALL.
 

I have to agree with Trap_Jaw there are no known upload or download bugs with the latest version of LimeWire (At least I haven't had any. If you have multiple public net IP addresses you can download from your self. but, I assume that you you have multple PCs behind one public net ip address in which case you probably won't be able to download from yourself.)

With all of that being said. I am suggesting that you do the following.

Go to my website click contact us and send me an coordinate a test time. I'll search for the files you specify and attempt to download them from you I can also decode the results coming from your machine to get an idea of what's happening with the transaction.


Looking forward to hearing from you.

I have the same problems posted above.

I am running Limewire 2.7.13.

To clarify:

1. Under earlier versions of Limewire I would receive reports of many successful uploads from other users.

2. I know my own IP, 24.xxx., etc., it is set to push/force IP from behind the firewall, as has always been the case, with previous versions of Limewire as well. This IP works fine w/ apps such as Snapperhead allowing people to take pix of my desktop which is also forcing behind a router/firewall.

3. Nothing has changed except the Limewire build, and yet I am getting hardly anyone uploading from me.

4. I *know* something is wrong. It is not a simple matter of forcing the IP as I have had this in place under this version of Limewire and under previous versions.

5. I have disabled and disconnected my wireless router when using Limewire to take that away from the equasion and am on a simple cable modem connection. The wireless router is new, and I will worry about configuring it with Limewire later. If we can figure out a basic cable modem configuration, then I will re-implement my wireless router while using Limewire. For now, please know there is **no wireless router** in the equasion; my Mac 10.2 OS X 10.2's firewall is enabled but certain ports such as those used for Limewire are allowed. Port-mapping 10.2's firewall with Limewire works; I know because some people are getting through. Again what remains terribly frustrating is that this exact set-up worked fine under previous versions of Limewire.

~~~~~~~~

As a separate issue,

:confused:

I have set the Upload Limit to 100 for "number of uploads" from a single user. Despite doing this, I am receiving reports from users who are on, let's be generous and say their 10th upload (not their 100th) of "Upload Limit Reached." They might reach 10 if I leave Limewire on 48-72 hours. Question: Is there a cut-off to the number of uploads allowed per IP if I have set it to 100 and the IP obviously has gotten nowhere close?

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As others have mentioned, I can go for several hours and have maybe 4 uploads whereas before I would have maybe 50. Something is wrong. If you have 50 successful uploads versus 4, the program is not working as well. !!!! :eek: :confused: :confused: :( :o

Actually something else has changed too. LimeWire has started to cluster its nodes to shield you from traffic. You are receiving less upload requests from non-limewire hosts. Normally I would assume that limewire users and other gnutella users have the same download behaviour, but maybe this is not the case. In addition upload queues have been introduced and usually, - and if you are in somebody's upload queue you would not try to download from alternate locations as aggressively as you would without upload queues. So maybe this is another reason for the changed number of upload requests. There's nothing wrong with the program at all. (Well, older versions of LimeWire or other gnutella clients that don't support upload queues will not be able to download from you if there are clients in your upload queue).

And I guess you did not set up your router for port-forwarding, in which case forcing your IP is completely useless. Nothing's wrong. The network has just changed.

I would think that LimeWire set your overall upload limit to a lower value than what you set as "max upload slots" value. It does that at times, when it seems you can't sustain that many uploads.

Oh and yet another thing. LimeWire hosts (in opposite to some other vendors) value the busy bit in your query replies. When your host says it's busy another LimeWire client will give your host a lower priority when trying to download a file that you have but that others have as well.

If you want to know more about how LimeWire handles uploads and about what might be wrong, you can download the newest beta which comes with some nice statistics.

By the way, my client receives an upload request every other second and my upload queue is never empty.

Interesting, I am now receiving requests from Java 1.1.8, Morpheus, Java 1.3.1, among others.


Are you referring to my wireless router, which I have disabled when using Limewire? (As an aside, the wireless router is set up for port forwarding.) Are you referring to my 10.2 firewall, which I have also disabled as a test, but which produced no better results? My wireless is set up fine for port-forwarding, as is my OS 10.2 firewall. I can disable both of them, and still I will not get uploads.


To clarify, I did not mean "Max Upload Slots." I meant "Uploads Per Person," defined as "Allow this many uploads per person." This is set at 100; if there is a cap, Limewire should specify.

"Max Upload Slots" is set at Limewire's default of 6 and as Limewire says, will only be reached if I have enough bandwidth. This should not affect "Uploads Per Person."

How can my host be busy when no one is uploading at the present time?

Wondering why I should have to download a beta when it seems this latest version should not have me working so hard. :confused:

Still trying to figure out, then, why so few people are able to upload successfully from me. I base this on "number of successful uploads" on previous Limewire builds versus this one.

:confused:

>Interesting, I am now receiving requests from Java 1.1.8, Morpheus, Java 1.3.1, among others.

The Java X.Y.Z requests are actually (well, probably) LimeWire HEAD requests from versions prior to 2.7. HEAD requests are things that exchange information about the file, such as alternate locations. From 2.7 forward, the User-Agent for head requests were set correctly to LimeWire.

Java 1.1.8 = Java 1.3.1 = LimeWire, - it's a small bug in the HEAD requester that has been fixed by now, I believe.

"Uploads Per Person" will not override "Max Upload Slots" and "Max Upload Slots" specifies the absolute maximum of parallel uploads. LimeWire will however adjust its internal maximum for parallel uploads (also overriding "Uploads Per Person") dynamically according to the currently available bandwidth. DO NOT change the "Start Upload Slots" value, it can lead to unexpected results (e.g. you won't be able to upload at all or only at 0kb/s).

It's not busy when you aren't uploading anything. I meant that while you are uploading, LimeWire will indicate in its queryhits that you are busy and old versions (prior to 2.7) will usually not consider downloading from you if they search you while you are busy. Even if they receive another result from you, while requerying the network, which indicates that you are not busy anymore, they will not download from you. This was also fixed with version 2.7.


It was just an idea, if you wanted to see more about LimeWire's internals. For example it counts the number of upload requests you receive as well as the number of push requests (if you receive many of those, you will know that others have problems connecting to your host).

I wonder why offer "Uploads Per Person" as a configurable option, if it will be overridden by "Max Upload Slots," as the two are different? Under Max Upload Slots, which is not where my problem is occurring, only six parallel uploads can occur at one time, maximum, based on my available bandwidth and my configuration set at six. If I am not allowed to specify "Uploads Per Person" then that should not be a configurable option. For example, Limewire just cut someone off who only had three uploads, even thought I had set Uploads Per Person at 100. My old version of Limewire handled these requests without incident.

I haven't changed this from the default value of 5. The config page does state problems with changing this value.


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The bottom line is, Why was I seeing so many successful uploads on previous versions of Limewire and so few now?

:confused:

This sounds pretty interesting. Where do I upload this beta and is there a charge for it? Currently I'm running the free version.

BTW at the moment I have both the 10.2 (Mac OS X) firewall and my wireless router enabled and am having fairly decent luck with uploads. Not like the old days, but at least I am seeing some activity. Unfortunately, these short periods of activity are followed by long periods of no activity. Successful and completed uploads are much fewer than on earlier Limewire versions.

Other clients I'm getting requests from include MMMM, MyNapster 3.4.3.0 (port 6481), etc.

Downloads Testing
 

goto my website pick an address and email me with your IP address and some files you are hosting. It would help if you could indicate when you are going to be online if it is now, that's good. I can connect and search the network with serveral machines I can completely clobber your connection with download requests if you like and hopefully I can give you some good feedback on what I'm seeing on my end.

Hope this helps looking forward to hearing from you.

sonnet/LeeWare, let us know what the results are

I'll be sure to do that however, as it stands I have not received an e-mail from this guy (sonnet) yet.

Sorry ...

There have been 26 successful uploads in the past 12 hours, none going on now.

Lee, I'm available now, so I will email you. :)