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Old July 5th, 2004
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Post Download AVI

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I have LimeWire PRO 4.0.7 on my system running Win98SE with a DSL Extreme(over512kbps) connection at my home. I have tried to download several .avi files for the entire day with no success. I have restarted the dls several times. I bought the LimeWire PRO because I thought there was going to be easier access to files. I noticed many questions about this on the forums, is there some kind of fix or is it a bug? Any info would be appreciated.

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Up ability to download content is basically limited by host you are uploading from. Unfortunately, a large number of people sharing content on the network are either

#1 Firewalled
#2 busy serving other users
#3 using 56-128Kbps connections this translates to roughly
7-16K max downloads. Try to keep this in mind. If you want to test your ability to download let me know and I can give you access to a machine connected to a T1 and you'll see the difference.
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Default Re: Is 2-3kbs downloads normal?

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Originally posted by cabe
I just started using LW basic a few days ago and I'm only getting download speeds of 2-3 kbs.
  • My connection says "excellent"
    I'm only connecting to 4 star sources
    I have a 56 k modem running behind a firewall. I checked the port and it is not blocked.
    I have a Pentium 4 with xp os
    I tried forcing my IP but with no change in performance
    I'm connecting to cable modem sources or higher, usually T1
    I'm usually downloading no more than 2 files at a time
    I normally have 2 sources listed but can't seem to get more than that, even if they are very popular files.

I've tried some of the other suggestions in the forum and there hasn't been any measurable difference; then again the first two pages of this thread are mostly flame so after that I skipped to the newest section. LW purports to have the fastest speeds but this seems awfully slow. Any suggestions will be helpful.
Thanks,
Jeff

Thanks for all of the information. Most people leave it out.
LimeWire displays the transfer speeds in KiloBytes data communications is rated in terms of kilobits.

Therefore, 56Kbit modem = max 7Kbyte
1Byte = 8 Bits
2KB = 16Kbps
4KB = 32Kbps this is more than 50% of your bandwidth.

Don't forget over head and actual connection speed which might be 45Kbps.

So, to make a long story short. Yes
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Default Switch to "Monitor" kills uploads

I am another who is new to LW (ver. 4.0.7 basic on a P-IV 2.4G running XP[Home] with a DSL 256k conn. )
Problem is, while I know that I can successfully upload - the results are there - whenever I switch to "Monitor" active uploads are flagged "transfer interrupted". This occurs about one second after the switch, just enough time to see that the uploads WERE in fact active.Not all uploads are affected but those that continue are in the minority.
These uploads never resume - I have left them for many hours - and leave me feeling that I have failed to deliver my part of "the bargain". Must be frustrating at the other end too.
If this has been discussed elsewhere, my apologies, just point me in the right direction.
Hopefully somebody can help me with this and possibly also check out my other query - in "General Windows Support" posted 07-11-04.

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Default Re: Switch to "Monitor" kills uploads

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I am another who is new to LW (ver. 4.0.7 basic on a P-IV 2.4G running XP[Home] with a DSL 256k conn. )
Problem is, while I know that I can successfully upload - the results are there - whenever I switch to "Monitor" active uploads are flagged "transfer interrupted". This occurs about one second after the switch, just enough time to see that the uploads WERE in fact active.Not all uploads are affected but those that continue are in the minority.
These uploads never resume - I have left them for many hours - and leave me feeling that I have failed to deliver my part of "the bargain". Must be frustrating at the other end too.
If this has been discussed elsewhere, my apologies, just point me in the right direction.
Hopefully somebody can help me with this and possibly also check out my other query - in "General Windows Support" posted 07-11-04.
I've noticed this problem when some people upload from me. I have come to two primary conclusion regarding this situation.

#1 They are trying to download too many files using a 56Kbps connection and the connections are stalling.

#2 They attempting to download content from a connection that prohibits the P2P transfers. Somewhere in between is a device used to block or significantly limit p2p transfers.

Again, I don't know if either one of these assessments are entirely correct but I have encountered this being the case in some if not most of the situations.

I would not be able to make a better determination until more specific testing can be conducted.
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Thanx for your reply Lee.

While I have no doubt that your conclusions are correct, I am not sure that they totally address my problem. If the situation was in line with your speculations, some UL's would already be flagged as "transfer interrupted" when I switch over to "Monitor" - on odd occasions one or two but not often.

Possibly more are "connecting" than "uploading" but there isn't much time to see as very soon after the switch they change to "t.i.". Even if it is only a minority that are "uploading" why should they change at that time?

As for more specific testing - please enlighten me!!!
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Question Down Load Woes

Ok. I have been using Lime wire free for a very very long time off and one (go through spurts...LOL) I just downloaded the newest version of it and have a weirdness issue I guess. I am on DSL and think I have the options set up right, but I am spending a LOT of time with my files saying they are waiting in line, awaiting sources, waiting for busy hosts and just not going anywhere. Then one finally "connects" right and it will sit there and say it's downloading and after 10 minutes it's downloaded 0% and the speed =0 and a few minutes later is back to awaiting resources, needing resources or waiting for busy host. Now the same file could do this three or four times in an hour. Did I really just manage to pick the wrong files to want to download? If I have too many (over 4 or 5) at one time does it lock up limewire and confuse it?? I always thought before if I had 20 or 30 files, it was just going in order of what it could find downloading and moving on to the next set.. Am I miss remembering??

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I didn't realise this thread was still active until today. Likewise I have a question. re: 4. Go to tools/options/filters/keywords Filter out search results containing !!!
Most likely viruses or porn files emulating your search queries.
(Quote from your 1st post on page 1.)
Exactly how can we filter out these deceptive results. Some of which turn out to be deliberately setup in popular searches so people will open them & find their way to a seedy website. Refer to THIS! There's a reference to the website in question in another thread I didn't find at short-notice (just a day/2 before.) I find it is happening (these files appearing in search results) more frequently in more & more types of searches. I think this is an issue a great many people would like some kind of a solution to. Thanks for your time if you can consider this issue.
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The tips above must be helpfull somehow... Thanks to everyone helping us out! That is very nice from you all... Ignorant users (like me) would never figure out what to do by theirselves. I'm not that ignorant though... have tried many options from above without reading the posts... ever!

But still, my ignorant part just wants to know... Even filtering by quality and speed, the downloads keep getting connected to modem users. This is a pain when you want something bigger than 50 MB... Also, I'm through a OSX firewall and a modem connection... It's being so annoying to search for things that appear to be from good connections and then it starts waiting in line and then connecting to modem users that don't even know what's happening, or ever check the monitors tab...

So ... Am I really doing something wrong or this could be a little fault from Limewire?
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Thanx for your reply Lee.

While I have no doubt that your conclusions are correct, I am not sure that they totally address my problem. If the situation was in line with your speculations, some UL's would already be flagged as "transfer interrupted" when I switch over to "Monitor" - on odd occasions one or two but not often.

Possibly more are "connecting" than "uploading" but there isn't much time to see as very soon after the switch they change to "t.i.". Even if it is only a minority that are "uploading" why should they change at that time?

As for more specific testing - please enlighten me!!!
First, I should ask are you still having this problem? If so, you should enabled the statistics so that you can get an accurate picture of how many uploads are not being completed successfully. You can do this by going to (in limewire) tools/statistics/advanced/ check show advanced statistics expand the tree so that the following screen is shown.

Advanced/uploads/General

What you want to pay attention to is your completed file transfers vs. stalled and interrupted.

After you enable these statistics let limewire run for 24 hours. Then check the statistics and post your results here.

Secondly, it is important to understand the statistics are enabled per session that is, if you restart limewire you will have to re-enable the statistics.

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Ok. I have been using Lime wire free for a very very long time off and one (go through spurts...LOL) I just downloaded the newest version of it and have a weirdness issue I guess. I am on DSL and think I have the options set up right, but I am spending a LOT of time with my files saying they are waiting in line, awaiting sources, waiting for busy hosts and just not going anywhere. Then one finally "connects" right and it will sit there and say it's downloading and after 10 minutes it's downloaded 0% and the speed =0 and a few minutes later is back to awaiting resources, needing resources or waiting for busy host. Now the same file could do this three or four times in an hour. Did I really just manage to pick the wrong files to want to download? If I have too many (over 4 or 5) at one time does it lock up limewire and confuse it?? I always thought before if I had 20 or 30 files, it was just going in order of what it could find downloading and moving on to the next set.. Am I miss remembering??

Thanks.

This problem doesn't sound like a limewire problem as much as it is a problem with the sources you are trying to download from. There are three possible causes for your problem. Especially, if you are trying to download popular content . i.e. (usually infringing)

#1 There are so many people trying to download from so few hosts. (supply/demand problem.)

#2 Since the early days of P2P there have been companies that place hosts on the network which return results for popular content but are configured in a way so that you can't actually download the files.

#4 Dynamic nature of the network. Don't forget that hosts join and leave the network constantly. Therefore, it is quite possible to perform a search, get results and by the time you go to download the files the hosts that returned the results has left the network i.e. more sources needed.

My suggestion is to try downloading some other files preferrably smaller ones. If they transfer without issue then you can look to the above suggestions as possible causes.

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