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Old April 9th, 2001
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I spent about 16 hours straight trying to download a couple large video files (380 to 600 megs). 95% of the time I couldn't start a download because the server was busy or I got a message "unavailable to download. When I started a download I usually got about 2-6% before it stopped and I couldn't resume. The most I ever got was 46% once. The biggest upload was about 15% of an 80 meg file and the monitor log would say error. I am on a cable connection. I successfully downloaded a smaller file (10 megs). What can I do to hook up on downloads more often and successfully download large files? I also want others to be able to upload large files from me.
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Old April 9th, 2001
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Oh by the way, I'm using Limewire 1.3 for Mac.
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Old April 11th, 2001
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The biggest problem is... large files take a really long time for people to upload to others... most people are capped at about 15kb/s on cable and dsl connections. Meaning you can download at 250 kb/s but you can only upload at 15kb/s. This is what causes the problem....

Assume you have someone serving movies...and the movie is 600Mb and he only allows 2 people to d/l at a time...and he is capped at 15kb/s.

so it takes one person

600mb x 1024kb/mb = 614400Kb

614400Kb / (15kb/s / 2 users) = 81920 seconds

81920 sec / 60sec/min = 1366 minutes

1366min / 60min/hr = 22 hours.

So it means that it takes 22 hours before those slots will open again... that's why it takes so long... and it exactly the reason i stopped sharing my movies... I want people to get my movies but it's ridiculous to try this without 1) a reliable resume function (I mean one with 100% reliability) 2) higher bandwidth. All I got was people getting partial movies from me... they got the first 100MB and then a data collision, or something and the connection was dropped....

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Old April 11th, 2001
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by milhouse_ph:
The biggest problem is... large files take a really long time for people to upload to others... most people are capped at about 15kb/s on cable and dsl connections. Meaning you can download at 250 kb/s but you can only upload at 15kb/s. This is what causes the problem....

Assume you have someone serving movies...and the movie is 600Mb and he only allows 2 people to d/l at a time...and he is capped at 15kb/s.

so it takes one person

600mb x 1024kb/mb = 614400Kb

614400Kb / (15kb/s / 2 users) = 81920 seconds

81920 sec / 60sec/min = 1366 minutes

1366min / 60min/hr = 22 hours.

So it means that it takes 22 hours before those slots will open again... that's why it takes so long... and it exactly the reason i stopped sharing my movies... I want people to get my movies but it's ridiculous to try this without 1) a reliable resume function (I mean one with 100% reliability) 2) higher bandwidth. All I got was people getting partial movies from me... they got the first 100MB and then a data collision, or something and the connection was dropped....

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Old April 11th, 2001
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I understand what you're saying but have you found an alternative methods for downloading large movies and sharing large movies?
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Old April 12th, 2001
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the best alternative I've found: Streamload...

1 problem with it though... it costs $$$

it's $7.95/month for 3GB/month of d/l

But after you sign up you can go to various movie trading places and people will beam you movies and then you d/l them from your account. Beaming is instant (or close to) beaming is just the transfering of links to someones account. You see streamload holds a central server of media files, and I can upload any media file to them. Then after I've put it on their server I can send links to anyone I want to. So there is only 1 copy of the file but lots of links to it. Then you d/l the movie from your account. The nice thing is streamload allows multiple logins during d/l meaning if you use DAP or flashget you can max out your connection... so a 600mb movie takes 1.5hours instead of 22hours. But like I said it comes with the small problem of paying every month. If you wanna sign up I'll beam you a bunch of movies (~150 of them), just e-mail me with the account name you sign up with: milhouse_ph@hotmail.com

I'll also let you in on the sites that allow trading.

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Old April 16th, 2001
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I'm getting lots of large files of Limewire. Several <300mb files, etc. If I'm lucky, I get it at 200 k/sec, if I'm partially lucky 40 k/sec, if I'm unlucky, 10 or so (bellow that, I don't bother).

If you're into irc script you could get large files off of I_Are_See (slow), or, without searching, but still enourmous selections, the news groups (Agent or Newsbin). The great thing about the news groups is that they are only one hop, so, I average 300-to-400 k/sec with peak speeds of up to 1,200 k/sec. Nothing (nothing) on the internet can give me that...



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Old April 16th, 2001
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Try using FURI as your Servant , it does Resume downloads after failures,(not restart ). I have downloaded very larger files, only getting portions of them from various servants.!
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Old April 16th, 2001
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Epic:
I'm getting lots of large files of Limewire. Several <300mb files, etc. If I'm lucky, I get it at 200 k/sec, if I'm partially lucky 40 k/sec, if I'm unlucky, 10 or so (bellow that, I don't bother).

If you're into irc script you could get large files off of I_Are_See (slow), or, without searching, but still enourmous selections, the news groups (Agent or Newsbin). The great thing about the news groups is that they are only one hop, so, I average 300-to-400 k/sec with peak speeds of up to 1,200 k/sec. Nothing (nothing) on the internet can give me that...



[This message has been edited by Epic (edited 04-16-2001).]
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Old April 16th, 2001
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Epic:
I'm getting lots of large files of Limewire. Several <300mb files, etc. If I'm lucky, I get it at 200 k/sec, if I'm partially lucky 40 k/sec, if I'm unlucky, 10 or so (bellow that, I don't bother).

If you're into irc script you could get large files off of I_Are_See (slow), or, without searching, but still enourmous selections, the news groups (Agent or Newsbin). The great thing about the news groups is that they are only one hop, so, I average 300-to-400 k/sec with peak speeds of up to 1,200 k/sec. Nothing (nothing) on the internet can give me that...



[This message has been edited by Epic (edited 04-16-2001).]
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All my download requests come back denied (95% of the time). I checked the show log and when they don't I get a download speed that fluctuates from about 7 or 8 kbps with very occasional peaks to 15 to 18 kbps. Am I doing something wrong?
With the newsgroups I just subscribe to that newsgroup and then what? How do I get downloads?
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