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Old January 24th, 2004
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Default how do i get maximum downloading speed

i'm new to this type stuff, so i'm just wondering how do i get maximum downloading speed with a 28.8k modem? Sometimes it downloads at 1-3 kb per second and once it went at 20kb per second what do i need to keep it at 20 kb?

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A 28.8k modem will give you an average download speed of 3.5KB/s at most.
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ok thanks
but then how come a couple times after i first installed limewire it was downloading at 20KB/s?
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Old January 25th, 2004
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this used to happen to me a bit with my 56k modem as well.
i think it is due to your provider not always capping your
download speed diligently. at times they may give you more bandwidth automatically simply because it is available (for brief periods).
you cannot expect this to be a regular feature, however, and
if you can afford it, get a faster connection (or at least a faster modem. 28k modem?)
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Yep,

a 56k Modem would double your speed, and they are very cheap.

Have a look at

www.ebay.com

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To Aragorn64468

When I used dialup I found it necessary to experiment with port speeds, and the results seemed to depend on the provider. When I did tec support for MSN, we were 'told' to tell customers who were having 'performance issues' (i.e. downloading a 3MB tune took 8 hours) to check that their port speed wasn't set to 115K, and if it was, to lower it to 57K - the 'logic' being the higher port setting would (and I'm paraphrasing here) "predispose a system expectation of network performance that was not possible at the fixed bandwidth provided by 'the service'; and, so, in turn, would result in a network bottle-neck effect, paradoxically slowing down surfing performance."

Whatever. The 'system' doesn't give a rats patuty how it gets connected, because it has no 'expectations' because it's, well a computer. Anthropomorphising aside, it does seem that some connections work better by "streamlining" at a lower port speed, preventing the so called "bottle-neck effect." But, personally, I always found when I set my port speed (no matter who the provider was - and I tried many) at 115K I was usually clocking my connections at 41-44K, using a 56k modem. But that's just ISP connection speed.

I've had broadband for several years now, and have been pretty fortunate with Limewire downloads, so am only guessing on dialup download/upload performance. But if someone put a gun to my head and said I had to download off a 28K modem (and gawd as my witness, I once sped a 2400baud modem on an XT - back in d'day), I'd be inclined to max my port speed to 115K; didn't try to download 23,000 tunes at the same time (say 3-5 at a time, to be on the safe side); chose cable/T1/T3 sources; wasn't multi-tasking, gaming, or trying to blend marguerites while attempting to download; and didn't have a trough of items being fed at the systray. What’s' that 'puter realtor saying? Oh yeah: "Resources, resources, resources."

So, I’d lower my output, and maximize my input to get those tunes.

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The port speed is usually the same. Some providers slow down some port (sharing ports) but nobody is incresing the speed of a port.

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When I did tec support for MSN, we were 'told' to tell customers who were having 'performance issues' (i.e. downloading a 3MB tune took 8 hours) to check that their port speed wasn't set to 115K, and if it was, to lower it to 57K - the 'logic' being the higher port setting would (and I'm paraphrasing here) "predispose a system expectation of network performance that was not possible at the fixed bandwidth provided by 'the service'; and, so, in turn, would result in a network bottle-neck effect, paradoxically slowing down surfing performance."
???

AFAIK its technically impossible to download with a 56k modem faster than 56k... it doesn´t matter how fast the line is. A friend told me (who is working for a German provider), that the line is much faster than the "guarantee" speed, because if they have performance problems and the line drops by 50% they can assure the top speed! But the output isn´t faster (at least not much, depends on your hardware) than the "guarantee" speed.

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Exactly - you can't get beyond the 56k with a 56K modem. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my note. My point was that if you have a 56k modem and your modem is connecting with the network at 12kps then something needs to be addressed...logic aside, I found that by setting my modem port speed to 115K my connection performance would improve, from say, 26-32kps, to 42-44kps. If I left the port setting at 56Kps I wouldn't get the 42-44kps. It shouldn't make any difference, but it always did. If someone could explain why I'd really appreciate some theories. Theories aside, if it was my 28K modem I'd be setting the port speed to 115Kps despite what should make sense. When with MSN I found it rare for customers to get a connection speed beyond 32-33kps with a 56K modem. As your isp friend indicates, guaranteed speeds are typically conservative, especially given shifts in network traffic. (Ever try to get online with dialup just after dinner?)

??? for sure

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As your isp friend indicates, guaranteed speeds are typically conservative, especially given shifts in network traffic. (Ever try to get online with dialup just after dinner?)
I forgot to mention that the provider he is working for offers only High speed connections.

Yes I remember the time with a dial up... sometimes I was lucky that I was able to connect.

The internet can be so beautiful with High speed connections...

Really I remember my bills, I paid sometimes for times more than for my DSL account - with ONLY 1/12 of the speed... nowadays there are very cheap ones out there - and for P2P freaks a MUST HAVE!

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