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birdy August 14th, 2006 02:49 AM

If a user's offline, you can't see any of their files.
What you're seeing might be fake files, there are lots around. They'll sit 'connecting' for ages before going straight to 'need more sources'. Typically, these are new releases (though not always) with large numbers of sources (up to 100). Try varying your search terms... look for artist or album rather than song title. Also try the All Types search. Stay away from files with huge numbers of sources, I go for files with 10 sources or less:)

renegade fm August 14th, 2006 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by birdy
If a user's offline, you can't see any of their files.
What you're seeing might be fake files, there are lots around. They'll sit 'connecting' for ages before going straight to 'need more sources'. Typically, these are new releases (though not always) with large numbers of sources (up to 100). Try varying your search terms... look for artist or album rather than song title. Also try the All Types search. Stay away from files with huge numbers of sources, I go for files with 10 sources or less:)

Thanx for that mate.


But what causes fake files to go onto Limewire? You say typically these are new releases, but surely even if its a new release from someone if they are online it should download am I right?

There seem to be too many files that won't download to be all new releases if you see what I mean?

Can you please explain this a bit more to me, sorry for seeming thick.

birdy August 14th, 2006 03:08 AM

There are lots of organisations that would love to see the end of p2p (the RIAA for one!). These fakes are planted in the hope that it will discourage people from using apps like LimeWire! Check out LOTR's post here, he gives a few more links to have a look at
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showpo...5&postcount=10

renegade fm August 14th, 2006 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by birdy
There are lots of organisations that would love to see the end of p2p (the RIAA for one!). These fakes are planted in the hope that it will discourage people from using apps like LimeWire! Check out LOTR's post here, he gives a few more links to have a look at
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showpo...5&postcount=10


But how do they physically get them there I mean't to say mate? Not so much why.

And yet songs I know Iv'e uploaded arn't there.

Lord of the Rings August 14th, 2006 05:44 PM

Don't believe that such groups are closing down. It's propaganda. Perhaps specific ones have but new ones will have been contracted to do the job. Overpeers (click on link) & a couple of others: 1. MediaSentry & this one 2. Mediadefender

renegade fm August 16th, 2006 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings
Don't believe that such groups are closing down. It's propaganda. Perhaps specific ones have but new ones will have been contracted to do the job. Overpeers (click on link) & a couple of others: 1. MediaSentry & this one 2. Mediadefender


I don't doubt that mate, all I'm interested in really is trying to find out why the songs I uploaded are not in the list when I do a normal search.

You would think that Limewire would digitally list all the succesfully uploaded files so that other people could queue them in their request list to be downloaded so that when the original person comes online it will start to download, or the person/persons it uploaded to from the original person it could start to download then also.

Isn't that basically how this Limewire works? Or am I wrong?

birdy August 16th, 2006 01:03 AM

There's no request list or list of files being shared. It's only after people come online that their files appear in anyone's search.

renegade fm August 16th, 2006 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by birdy
There's no request list or list of files being shared. It's only after people come online that their files appear in anyone's search.


Ok thanks for that mate.

So now that I'm armed with that information at least I can move onto my next question.

Why is it then that I now have uploaded loads of different songs all from different artists but I never ever see them in the normal search list even though I know a few of the people that uploaded from me are online cause Iv'e been chatting to them through Limewire itself?

It would greatly encourage me to share more songs as I have lots of rare stuff for die hard fans of that artist or whatever if I could see the ones I uploaded somewhere.

Do you see what I mean?

6_pac August 16th, 2006 11:13 AM

I can't completely answer your question, but when you do a search you don't connect to every computer on the network. Your searches only go so far. Chances are that your not connecting to anyone that has uploaded your files.

Every time you startup LW you connect to different peers and ultrapeers. So potentially you can find different files than the last time you were connected.

There are millions of people using Gnutella clients and billions of files being shared. So it can be like finding a needle in a haystack.

renegade fm August 17th, 2006 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 6_pac
I can't completely answer your question, but when you do a search you don't connect to every computer on the network. Your searches only go so far. Chances are that your not connecting to anyone that has uploaded your files.

Every time you startup LW you connect to different peers and ultrapeers. So potentially you can find different files than the last time you were connected.

There are millions of people using Gnutella clients and billions of files being shared. So it can be like finding a needle in a haystack.


I see what you mean mate, there was this one time that when I was chatting to someone in Italy that I uploaded a file to and I done a browse host search and it was in their list, but straight away I done a search for it in the normal audio search and it wasen't there even though we were still chatting so its things like that which I find confusing.

But thanks so much for all your help everyone so far, if you can think of anything please let me know;)


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