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bjswalker December 3rd, 2008 08:42 AM

Shocking, I know - but my Limewire searches are dead
 
My particulars: I'm running Windows Vista, just recently upgraded to Limewire Pro 4.18.8 and I have a cable connection that runs through a combo modem router, but for now, the only other active machine on the network is an Xbox and until Gears of War II comes out, it won't be on.

So I've been using Limewire for a couple of years, I think it's been, always the pro version, so I'm used to my happy little Turbo blue connection bars and snappy searches. I noticed a month-ish ago they were slooooooow, so I updated and now they are virtually at a dead stop. I have to hit "get more results" multiple times just to get a handful of results. I'm not searching for anything unusual, these are simple basic searches that I've used before (e-books by publisher) and I am used to 50-100 results per search.

I have:

Added 204.11.219.225 through .231 to my filters
deleted my LW preferences
unticked my license preference box
reverted my popup box to default
disabled ultrapeer, mojito and TLS
I've reinstalled Limewire twice
I've cleaned out my shared and incomplete files
tried Frostwire and didn't do any better with that

I will say that at certain times of the day I do slightly better, but I am absolutely not even remotely close to the kind of searching that I had before. A good search is 25 results and then I have to cross my fingers, toes and eyes that I can download it.

My ISP is the evil empire Charter. :cool:

Any help will be most, most appreciated.

bjswalker December 3rd, 2008 03:10 PM

Just editing to add in that I also checked my router to make sure it was set up to UPnP (it is), changed the listening port (?) on LW to one of the acceptable numbers between 4whatever and 5whatever it was, deleted and reaquired the Gnutella file just for the heck of it and called my ISP of doom, who swear, absolutely swear my 10 Meg service is just fine and they're not messing with me.

I never believe Charter.

Lord of the Rings December 3rd, 2008 06:01 PM

Someone posted just recently of similar behaviour by their LW. Their answer was installing FrostWire, then using LW, which suggested the Gnutella file they had was out of date. May I suggest you try replacing the one you have (yes I know you tried FW): http://www.gnutellaforums.com/connec...t-connect.html (DELETE/REPLACE gnutella.net FILE)

Something else to try: (a) Problems with the search, __ (b) Hostiles List, __ (c) In the Connections window, Cancel some of the connections. Some may be duds / spammer UltraPeers (UP's.)

BTW I have suffered same issue as you when trying same searches over multiple days. Stief suggested to me, quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by stief
Usually the connections are the problem: I'm connected to too many spam hosts.

Also, UP's drop repeated searches for a certain amount of time. I'm not sure of the timing, but I used to wait 24 hrs before repeating a search. I think that has changed, but I don't know what timings each version of an UP use.

So, bottom line: check filters (consider showing all junk results too), get new connections, or just wait a few hours before using a repeated search term.


bjswalker December 3rd, 2008 09:26 PM

needed to add info
 
Thanks for your response, LoTR.:PEACE:

Okay, redid the Gnutella file thing, installed the Hostiles list (that was a new one), already had the other IP addys in my filter list.

Just for good measure, I went over my network with a fine tooth comb and it's working perfectly for a change and my antivirus/firewall (McAfee) hasn't changed and is still allowing Limewire full access. And I do have the current version of Java (forgot to mention that). Nothing waiting to be downloaded either.

I've never been able to find a list of connections in Limewire Pro. I can see it in Frostwire, but there's nothing but a question about launching on startup under "connections" under tools in Pro. And I've looked everywhere else. It's not under any of the tabs or any of the other drop down menus that I can find. I haven't searched all afternoon and I tried an all-new one and got six results. Wheee.

I hope Santa's got an elf working on a patch and this seriously isn't my new Limewire.

Lord of the Rings December 3rd, 2008 10:39 PM

Try different types of searches, & see if things are different. Your UP's might be at fault. I had this scenario the other day, but other searches worked fine, I guess I'd just been overworking the search terms I was after over many days.

bjswalker December 11th, 2008 11:41 AM

Well, right after you posted this very helpful tip, I did a couple of non-document searches and got oodles of results, so success there. Then I got knocked off the computer by a monster virus of the human kind and was in the hospital until a few days ago and didn't have a chance to do searching of any kind.

So I did my first searches today for some pretty generic documents. Not by author or book title, just by publishing house, which should net me an avalanche of results to weed through. Way more than I want, but I was looking forward to this embarrassment of riches. What did I get. Nothing. Zero. Really. Nothing. Bupkus.

So I narrowed my search. Still nothing. Okay. I fired up Frostwire. One result. One. Flooding the system with my requests isn't the cause, since I was in the hospital for a week plus.

So I went through and did everything I did in my first post all over again. And nothing. Zero.

I'm a patient woman. I have a 17-yr. old son so I have to be. But I am seriously getting pissed off. This can't just be some generic problem that one or two of us is having. I know, I only paid about $35, it's not the end of the world, but I'm ripping my hair out trying to fix this thing and I'm feeling like it's MY fault that it's not working.

AAARGH (sort of menopausal vent)!

Does anyone have any new suggestions that haven't appeared on the forum, because I honest to goodness have scoured the place with a fine-toothed comb and have tried every single one of them? I would be most, most grateful. :shoot:

stief December 11th, 2008 03:09 PM

Not sure if this is new advice, but here goes:
To see what hosts are connected, use LW's View menu to turn on "Connections." Then the tab that shows connected hosts should be available.

Hosts can be removed (and new ones should take their place). If some of those hosts are spammers, you'll not get many decent results.

In addition, take a look at the Options for junk filters. See if setting to show all results (including junk) changes the results you see. Just a thought that your junk or keyword filters may be blocking too many results before they show on your screen.

bjswalker December 14th, 2008 07:41 AM

Hi stief, thanks for the help - the junk things not an issue. I added the connections tab (didn't know how to do that, thanks a bunch on that one!).

How many connections should I be looking at? Seems like the paltry six that I've had going the last couple of days isn't right. They're all UPs, but still. Seems a little weird to me. I got rid of all the hostile lists for now and once again deleted my preferences file and went through set up all over again and it still only has oh, now it's four connections. That just seems wrong, eh? Oh, and I did my check on how many connections I had at six in the morning, lunch time, dinner time, about 11 at night and 2 in the morning. So it doesn't seem to be a time of day issue.

stief December 14th, 2008 07:48 AM

Pro gets 5 connections to an Ultrapeer; Free uses 3. So, your connections look sort of normal. When idle, only two connections are used. Look at the "time connected" to see how long each one has been connected.

btw, when running as an Ultrapeer, you'd see ~ 32 connections to other Ultrapeers, and 32 connections to leafs (~64 connections in total).

Most of those connections will be LW 4.18.8's.

Try a "What's New" search: how many results do you see there, and how quickly do they show up?

bjswalker December 16th, 2008 05:07 AM

I tried the "What's New" thing - I got about 33 results in about a minute-ish. All on 5 UPs, Leaf status. Whatever that is, lol. All have el stinko bandwidth, I'm noticing. but you're right, all but one of them is 4.18.8. Time connected is all the same, the amount of time it's been since I logged on.

I'm logged back myself as an UP (I went back and unticked the box) - so should the number of connections I see be changing? I restarted but don't see a difference. For me at least, the purpose of Pro was the UP (well, everyone elses). Speed baby, speed.

This connections stuff I don't get, sorry for being dense as a Yule log.

Lord of the Rings December 16th, 2008 05:56 AM

You will become a UP as the network requires, if more are needed in your area or overall then you may find you suddenly connect as UP. So check the connections window from time to time to check for this. :)

stief December 16th, 2008 06:00 AM

No need to play with the leaf/UP settings: those are handled automatically. Actually, you should get more results as a leaf rather than as an UP.

Still, you should have about 10 times more results from a what's new search, so for some reason, probably outside your control, search results are being dropped before getting back to you.

So, just be patient and every once in a while see if removing one or two of the connections (thus letting a new connection come in) helps with results. I'll ask around and see if there is a better way to get connected to better UP's. Sorry for not being able to give a better answer, but Merry Christmas anyway.

bjswalker December 17th, 2008 08:34 AM

Just watching my dropped rate, it's averaging between 40 and 50% (the in rate, that is). Every so often I'll see something below a 20, but it's almost all 40-something.

Turned my firewall off and it didn't change anything. :(

mrogers January 6th, 2009 08:44 AM

The drop rate is interesting, I wonder whether your UPs are overloaded with other traffic and dropping query results? Sorry to hammer on about this, but could you try downloading http://limewire.org/debug/condi.jar , running it for an hour and emailing me the condi.log file?

bazzbozz January 6th, 2009 01:26 PM

re:New Pro version
 
Hello bjswalker, this is my first thread/reply so I hope I'm doing it right!
Anyways I too am having this problem since I updated to a newer version
of PRO and I received less than 1/4 of the hits I had prior to the update!
I suspect they are not telling us something, and I hope they can either fix the problem or return our money! I'm hoping I'm wrong but this happened right after my upgrading, so I can only assume the worst . . . Someone tell me I'm wrong!! Now prove it . . .:rolleyes_2:

mrogers January 6th, 2009 01:44 PM

Hi Bazzbozz,

We're working on this problem but we need your help. Could you please run the condi.jar program linked in my previous comment and send me the logfile?

Thanks,
Michael

bazzbozz January 6th, 2009 03:34 PM

Where is the program?
 
I'm sorry maybe I'm not gettin it, but what program do you want me to run and why? Where is this program, and what will it do to my computer, how much space does it take up, and what does it do?
It appears the problem lies with the new program and not my computer specifically, why should I add another program to an already difficult problem? I don't mean to come off defensive but it seems alittle absurd to add to the problem rather take something away!

stief January 6th, 2009 03:55 PM

bazzbozz:

mrogers is one of the limewire developers who has been working on finding out what the problem is with searches. He is telling you how to get your LimeWire to record the information he needs to fix the code.

You don't need to help, but if you want to help fix the problem, Michael has offered you a way to help.

see LimeWire Forums for more info

mrogers January 6th, 2009 04:00 PM

Sorry for not explaining more fully. The program is located at http://limewire.org/debug/condi.jar - it's a stripped-down version of LimeWire with no GUI that just connects to the network, issues some searches for random dictionary words, and logs some information about each connection, like how long it stays connected to each ultrapeer, the number of search results received, and the number of incoming searches. The program uses less memory than LimeWire and a minimal amount of CPU and bandwidth. It runs for an hour in the background; while it's running you should be able to see an icon in the system tray that shows a lime with a question mark in front of it. When the program exits it will leave behind a file called condi.log - please email the file to mrogers at limewire dot com and I'll try to determine what's wrong with your connection. No personal or private information will be written to the log file - you can open it with a text editor before sending it if you're curious about what's being logged.

Cheers,
Michael

bazzbozz January 10th, 2009 07:58 AM

Condi.jar program???
 
I d/l the link/program/files you suggested and unzipped whatever files were there, but I don't see a condi.jar file in the folder where they were saved to, could there be another name or are they hidden in one of the folders?

birdy January 10th, 2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazzbozz (Post 335916)
I d/l the link/program/files you suggested and unzipped whatever files were there, but I don't see a condi.jar file in the folder where they were saved to, could there be another name or are they hidden in one of the folders?

Just click on the link in mrogers' post & then choose to save the file. If you save it to your desktop, then the condi log file will also show up on your desktop. After the file finishes downloading, double click on the file named condi (has a Java emblem) on your desktop & it will start running:)

bazzbozz January 12th, 2009 12:16 PM

Where's the condi.jar???
 
Thanx for your replay Birdy! Well I did what you asked and the same thing happens, I get a folder named condi.zip on my desktop and when I try to open it a folder opens up with a bunch of other files and folders but no condi.jar program/file/folder! Am I really stupid or is something not happening here? I'm lost, is there something I'm doing wrong or is there another solution?

bazzbozz January 12th, 2009 12:22 PM

condi.jar program
 
I've just searched my entire hard drive for any condi.jar program and it doesn't find any, is there another name or link to d/l from?

BCOOL January 12th, 2009 02:43 PM

Same Problem With Frostwire
 
Howz It guys

I to am having the same problem with very little or no search returns.This started a few weeks back...I have a old version of limewire Pro 4.9.37 that has worked flawlessly until now...What I wanted to add is the very same problem is also affecting frostwire 4.17.2,there latest release...frostwire was also working flawlessly until a few weeks ago...I find it very strange that both LW and FW developed the same problem at the same time...what do you think?

Aloha,bcool

stief January 12th, 2009 02:50 PM

bcool--see http://www.gnutellaforums.com/downlo...tml#post335648 if you want to help track down this problem.


bazzbozz--your OS or browser is turning the condi.jar file into a folder. A .jar file normally does not show as a folder. What browser and OS are you using?

BCOOL January 12th, 2009 03:17 PM

How It stief,

"Shocking, I know - but my Limewire searches are dead" is the thread I'm posting in :cool:...I've tried all suggestions in this thread but the problem remains the same...Are you suggesting that I run the software at http://limewire.org/debug/condi.jar and send the results? If so,can do.

Mahalo,bcool

stief January 12th, 2009 03:36 PM

aloha bcool

Yes, the link was intended to point out mrogers' post (several above), so you could run the condi.jar.

Cheers

BCOOL January 12th, 2009 08:16 PM

HowzIt,

OK,I ran the ConnectionDiagnostics software and e-mailed the results.Lets hope this will help solve our problem...I wanted to let you know The ConnectionDiagnostics software I ran put the condi.log file in the Program Files/Mozilla Firefox folder. I had to do a search to find it.That's not what I was expecting.

Aloha,bcool

birdy January 12th, 2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCOOL (Post 336125)
I wanted to let you know The ConnectionDiagnostics software I ran put the condi.log file in the Program Files/Mozilla Firefox folder. I had to do a search to find it.That's not what I was expecting.

Aloha,bcool

Same thing happened to me originally, when I ran the file rather than saving it.. mrogers asked me to save the file to my desktop & see where the condi log ended up - it showed up on the desktop;)

BCOOL January 12th, 2009 08:48 PM

Thanks
 
Ya that's it.I ran it not saved it.Thanks:xeri_ok1ani:

bcool

bazzbozz January 15th, 2009 12:47 PM

I'm using windows XP and I think my browser is netscape, but I'm not sure, how can i find out which browser I have?

bazzbozz January 19th, 2009 01:54 PM

Re Condi.jar program/file
 
steif;
I'm not sure what my browser is I think it's IE explorer, how can I find out for sure? As far as my OS it's XP

stief January 19th, 2009 05:40 PM

Hi bazzbozz.

I'm not sure with XP (I'm on OS X), but I'd think you would be using IE.

You could try with Firefox (free, Firefox web browser | Faster, more secure, & customizable ) and see if that gives the same problem.

.xx.andrea..varey.xx. January 21st, 2009 04:27 PM

Hello this is my first post on the site.

My Limewire is also dead when it comes to searching, I am afraid I'm not completely clued up with the technical side, but I have rebooted both the programme & my computer twice and uninstalled & then reinstalled.

Still nothing happens though when I put in for a search, please could someone give me a few simplified pointers?

I'm on windows XP & I am currently using Firefox if that's any help?

Thankyou..xx

BCOOL January 22nd, 2009 12:02 AM

Look Here
 
How it .xx.andrea..varey.xx.

Try looking at in the thread "No search results" by radcrow and check out the post by skyliner...

Aloha,BCOOL


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