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Old April 7th, 2009
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It's a shame that LW doesn't track share ratios. DL speeds could be restricted for peers with low rates of sharing.

Kazaa users were able to disconnect from downloaders. Many users disconnected anyone who was not sharing.

And then there are those who share everything - even bogus files. I feel it is my duty to check out a file before leaving it for others to download.
Vuse (Azureus) slows downloads down once the share ratio drops below a certain percentage, & gets slower & slower the worse the ratio gets. It does this until share ratio recovers again.

It would be good if gnutella / gnutella programs had a similar ability.

Yes I've seen so many people sharing junk. Some accidentally. Some sharing rubbish that obviously nobody wants.
Whilst some people might not share for special reasons, those who leech with a nasty approach as described in first post are despicable.

lol @ PickaxeFairy's last sentence.
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And another thing....

Leeching is bad enough - but if you're gonna do it, at least have a decent speed!

I am so sick of all these people in my upload window who can't seem to get above 0KB/s!
All this results in is every 10 seconds or so, everyone's upload speeds - however good they were initially - do nothing but fluctuate at ridiculous rates for silly amounts of time....
Thus slowing everyone down to stupidly stupid speeds.


I love Limewire, use it loads - but honestly.... there are hosts on here sometimes who just make me want to commit murder!

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Leeching is bad enough - but if you're gonna do it, at least have a decent speed!

I am so sick of all these people in my upload window who can't seem to get above 0KB/s!
I've suspected for a while, there is a problem between LW 4 users sharing to LW 5 users. I have a lot of upload problems to many LW 5 users. Post #208 Limewire 5 sucks half way down page.
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This is one reason the IM should be in better shape.Many times I have had to log out and I am not able to inform people when I will be back.However I always come backWith what I left with.
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I've suspected for a while, there is a problem between LW 4 users sharing to LW 5 users. I have a lot of upload problems to many LW 5 users. Post #208 Limewire 5 sucks half way down page.
Thanks for that Lord.

Not sure if the problem is just Limewire 5 though....?

Doesn't seem to matter what version people are using (in my case anyway)
I'm using Version 4.18.8.
My upload window slots are constantly fluctuating, mainly going backwards and sticking at 0KB/s.

The other day I was losing the will to live
A 6 minute file, nothing major - yet as soon as I started to download, it rapidly went backwards, stuck at 0KB/s for ages, then went to Awaiting Sources. This continued for the best part of 4 hours!
Funny thing was though, every time I right clicked on said file, it continued downloading quite happily.
Well for 10 seconds at a time anyway

What's with the Awaiting Sources message? How come I'm still able to download despite aforementioned 'message'?

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Last night I was connected to someone with a T3 connection speed setting. My download was fluctuating between 1-3 KB/s, mostly at the zero to 1 KB/s. Plus, it kept going into busy host. I had a few downloads from this person, forced them to start occasionally via resume but same thing. This person was downloading from me at 20-50 KB/s. Yes I had browsed them, checked some of the files they were sharing. They were sharing less than 200 files (perhaps 180), so made me wonder if they were really that busy. Perhaps upload speed setting (they were using LW 4.18.8)

But these types of users will always be around. Of course many people think single-mindedly about using LW to get free music, etc. so only use it to please themselves & do not wish to please anybody else. lol Fact of life unfortunately.
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forced them to start occasionally via resume
You devil you

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But these types of users will always be around.
I think the word you're looking for is 'baskets'
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Of course many people think single-mindedly about using LW to get free music, etc. so only use it to please themselves & do not wish to please anybody else.
You jest. Surely?


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Your issue is Partial File Sharing. And you are correct that there is no option to turn this off in LW 5. This is not the same as sharing your incomplete folder. But similar. It's a similar process used for torrents also, that parts of the file you have already downloaded, you upload to others. This overall helps speed up downloads for everyone. And if you are downloading from multiple hosts, chances are some of those are actually partial file sharing the file; the other person does not yet have the entire file. This is one reason why for very large files such as video files, you tend to lose hosts as you get over 90% downloaded. Partial Sharing is fantastic for the network & benefits everyone.

Only LW 4 has an option to disable Partial File Sharing.

There is the other option of Tools -> Options -> Downloads, option of Share files downloaded from the P2P Network with the P2P Network. This means the files get shared after 100% completion of downloading.

I guess in some ways one could argue that the inability to turn off partial file sharing helps stop total 'leeching' by those who do not wish to share any files whatsoever.

(On a side-note, whilst using LW 4.16 I found an odd situation last night. I had partial file sharing turned off, share immediately after downloading turned off, yet I had lots of people in upload window attempting to get a file I was downloading, even after the video download completed. The upload message was "File could not be found". lol Some kind of bug I suspect. ... I share 8,500 file btw. I have partial file sharing & finished downloaded file sharing turned off so I can check the file first before consideration of sharing.)

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I wouldn't call that a bug...its most likely because the file was listed as completed and shared for just a moment and that information was spread around the network's caches via the UPs...soooo...others see you as a source for the file, want it, yet by the time a connection is made with you its out of shares...
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My LW's setting is not to share 100% completed files. So at no time should it have been communicated to the network it was shared. Basically from moment of beginning of downloading to after completion, it should not have been shared at any point.

Only time i turn on Partial File sharing is if my uploads are a little quiet.
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