Gnutella Forums  

Go Back   Gnutella Forums > Gnutella News and Gnutelliums Forums > General Gnutella Development Discussion
Register FAQ The Twelve Commandments Members List Calendar Arcade Find the Best VPN Today's Posts

General Gnutella Development Discussion For general discussion about Gnutella development.


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #10 (permalink)  
Old December 12th, 2001
Moak's Avatar
Guest
 
Join Date: September 7th, 2001
Location: Europe
Posts: 816
Moak is flying high
Default

Hi, two things come in my mind:

First, Bearshare (perhaps other clients too) have a pong throtteling... which means they will not route a heavy number of pong descriptors in a short time window, but delay them, perhaps also throw some away (?).
Second, we had statistics some months ago saying ping/pong traffic was eating a huge percentage from the gnutella backbone traffic. It is a good idea not to use broadcast pings in a standard client to meassure horizon (avoid network broadcasts), but for sure it is okay in a rarely used statistic tool. I'm not sure if ping/pong for meassure of horizon will still work in future, perhaps Pong Limiting and Pong caching will provide falsified results. See http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/pingpong and http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/med_require.

To answer your question (I'm not sure what you want to do exactly): Ping/Pong is theoretically the most accurate Gnutella protocoll v0.4 method to meassure horizon, but unhealthy to the network if many clients do + allready falsified by anti broadcast techniques + limited by TTLs. Perhaps you should ask Limewire how they collect their rolling host count at http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/size. Other methods for gnutella size meassure could be: Asking query caches how many unique IPs they served, how many unique pings and pongs they received/transmitted. Asking upcoming superpeers, how many unique IDs they have routed. Implement new protocoll features to provide a better horizon estimation (some ideas in this thread).

Last edited by Moak; December 12th, 2001 at 03:49 AM.
Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The best of the best clients? chriiz90 General Gnutella / Gnutella Network Discussion 0 December 9th, 2005 09:14 AM
Cannot connect to clients. omgwtf Host Connections 2 August 12th, 2005 06:24 PM
Clients blocking other clients Zultrax General Gnutella Development Discussion 5 June 1st, 2004 01:41 AM
TTL in Gnutella clients hermaf General Gnutella Development Discussion 3 November 28th, 2001 10:16 AM
What are some of the best Clients?? superDBZ General Gnutella / Gnutella Network Discussion 3 July 9th, 2001 04:58 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

Copyright © 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.