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Old April 10th, 2002
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Default All developers, code up! XoloX is back

The trick XoloX pulls is sending queries over and over to try to get more "hits".
People think thats great, but it will take down the network if enough clients do it.
It takes a average of about 120 seconds for all results to come back once you send a search request.
Sending it again down the same path wastes bandwidth.
The path changes a bit over time, and repeating a search after 300 seconds may be OK.
If you connect to a new node, you may want to send the search down that path, so holding a search would be a nice thing to do.
Make sure your code stops search queries that repeat less than 300 seconds apart.
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Before you complain about the new version you should test it first!!!

The other is FIVE months old!!!

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Old April 11th, 2002
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This should be added to any client no matter what to prevent that type of abuse of the network. So please check your code.
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Old April 17th, 2002
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Well, that's one solution. The other is to discard all Xolox queries automatically.
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Old April 17th, 2002
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please dont even start down that road again. I hope xolox is responsible in their implementation of researches. The best way to research the network now is to support HUGE and do 1 search per hour by hash of all of they files you are looking for.

Very little burden on the network with the best results as HUGE is more widely adopted.
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Old April 17th, 2002
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Thx Bearsharefan...
and I hope they have more innovative ideas as and querying once an hour for one hash. If GDF wants to block his own traffic with XML, slowness and static traffic routing, fine. Other developers should go new ways with overaverage concepts and more usability, Xolox team showed once they are the right persons for the job, with visions and excellent technical understanding! Xolox was not an unhealthy client (that's a Bearshare rumour to divert from own unhealthy technology). We need no Bearshare hipocrisy. If Xolox continues it's work like they did before, then they are doing us a great favour again!

PS: I should not send this post, because it's like a neverending dejavu: Bearsharefans with technical unatractive and unhealthy client want to tell others how to do things. Please ignore my post, it's only boring and repeating reality.
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Old April 17th, 2002
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No, what you should do is get enough guts to log in. I wish they would inactivate the guest feature then the quality of posts here might go up.

Did you even read my post? Have you read any of my other posts? Xolox was a great client that finally pushed many other developers to included badly needed features. I never used Xolox much because I hated the interface.

Hey, I just use the best client, whatever that happens to be. And the best client is the one that works best for me. Im sorry you dont think I should be allowed to have my opinion.
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Old April 17th, 2002
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Default Re: Ignorance abounds

Originally posted by KathW
If you can't stand up and be recognised instead of hiding behind the cloak of anonymity
Instead we should hide behind a free hotmail e-mail account and continue on fooling people into thinking we are not anonymous.
Anyone who thinks just because someone is a "member" and logs in that they are who they say they are is a fool.
I rather like not having to log in, saves me time.
There is no difference in "anonymity". If I logged in I would still be "irritating" because I don't have your point of view, but yet there would be others who find your point of view irritating.
One can simply type a name when posting. And no, I don't accept cookies openly, too many sites misuse the privledge so I turn it off.

Besides, it's fun watching Unregistered argue with another Unregistered, or is it with himself?

As a mod, you should be more open minded. We don't need a wild person deleting posts because it's "irritating". I know you haven't yet, but absolute power corrupts...
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Old April 17th, 2002
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Default WAY off topic but...

I can't DISAGREE more. The noise level is so high here. Forcing people to log in would make it more of a pain for ppl that only want to cause trouble. Trolls could be banned by email. Yes, they could get a new email and account here but its a pain.
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