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Old June 24th, 2002
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Default bearshare : proprietary download ?

is it impossible to download on a bearshare client ?

for example on a NORMAL gnutella client, the url are http://<machine>:<port>/get/<index>/mymp3.mp3


on a BEARSHARE, it is
http://<machine>:<port>/get/<index>/mymp3.mp3?auth=121fd45

the auth permits to Bearshare not to SHARE
with the gnutella community !

BAN BEARSHARE !
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Thumbs down bearshare sucks !!

if you are right,

bearshare sucks !!
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Default Well,

Considering I'm uploading to 3 Gnucleus hosts, 1 Limewire host, and Zero Bearshare hosts ATM, and you're probably downloading from Bearshare hosts ATM, I'm sorry to say, but you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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Question I dont understand you !

could you precise your response ?
I dont really understand...
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Default Who? Me?

I'm saying anyone can download from Bearshare, because I'm running Bearshare, and I upload files to non-Bearshare client, more than I upload to Bearshare clients, so I don't know what you're talking about. There's not even a setting in Bearshare to block other clients. Some people want it, with recent events that have been happening with Qtrax2 and Morpheus, but so far, Vinnie hasn't given in and let it happen, and I don't think he ever will.
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Bearshare sux, but I think he's talking about downloading via a web browser.
Bearshare has a user selection to turn off sharing to web browsers, you can see the file list, but can't download from a browser, but if you also run bearshare or gnucleus client that allows drag and drop, you can drag the selected file from your browser and drop it on to gnucleus and it will be put into download.
It is misleading when someone brings up a menu of files but then can't download them. There should be a big, BIG warning when the user has his browser access off.
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Old June 25th, 2002
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This is true, you can't download with a web browser from bearshare and this is why in 3.0.0 even with the web deal turned on it doesn't show any files since it would be useless, just a web page that you can change and whatever.
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Default web browser...not only ?

in the RFC to download a file you don't need a auth parameter in the URL. I am trying to understand why Bearshare put such a thing. My own understand is that they don't want other free clients download on the Bearshare network without pay them a license. Do you agree with me ?
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Default ok I know why now

yes, I didn't read that thread http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=4638

Bearshare, Limewire ans Swapnut really sux !
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Old June 26th, 2002
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This URL is generated from the "Browse Host" feature by BearShare. This way, you can still use a regular browser to download the file. Without it, all browser are blocked (that is, browser like MSIE, Opera, etc.). This was done in response to public "Gnutella Portals" which allowed everyone to leech, but not return anything for it (thus causing a big imbalance, especially if the Gnutella client serving the browser has limited upload slots).

Regular Gnutella -> Gnutella download requests work fine for BearShare. Download Bearshare on your own PC, connect to it with another vendor's client and try to download something. You'll see it'll work.
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