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View Poll Results: Do you share or act as an Ultrapeer?
I'm sharing 24 60.00%
I'm acting as an Ultrapeer/Hub 1 2.50%
Both 13 32.50%
None of 'em 2 5.00%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

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Old August 25th, 2003
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Default Do you share or act as an ultrapeer?

Many people rant bitc h around about Gnutella, that you can't find anything and if you do, you won't be able to download it because you get into a long long queue.

The Gnutella Protocol offers the technology to allow fast and precise searching and also fast downloading and distribution, for me the problem seems to be on the lack of users willing to share either their files or their bandwidth.

So the question: Do you share or act as an Ultrapeer?

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Old August 25th, 2003
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Good question!
both--when I can. Still, if I have to choose between one or the other (bandwidth constraints), which do you think helps the network more? Sharing or being an UP?
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With the next version you should be able to do both because it should reduce the upload speed automatically when you become an ultrapeer.
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I have an old pc, and it locks up when any client uses too much bandwith. I do share all my files though.

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Old September 4th, 2003
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Exclamation UltraPeer

Engaging ultrapeer caused massive, heavy, relentless traffic when monitored; then connection went down. I'm on DSL. It also slowed MY searches. Believe me, I've twiddled with all the controls/parameter/settings possible, and it's just better to have Ultrapeer disabled WHILE YOU ARE LOOKING YOURSELF. Often, however, I will engage ultrapeer for other people's benefit, for as long as it holds and connection stays. I have not lost connection with Ultrapper disabled.
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Default Re: UltraPeer

Originally posted by PaulLimewireFan2003
I have not lost connection with Ultrapper disabled.
That's because you don't need to be an ultrapeer to connect to the network. However, without them the network would not function efficiently.

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Default the question should of read

Do you share



share and up

lime needs a way to get rid of freeloaders. And not just on personal uploads.

share or get booted. beacause thier not helping the network in any form except clogging it up!
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Yes, I agree. Brilliant. Even if it required sharing of say, 20-30 files, that would (or should) qualify. I have tested sharing my folder, then doing a search for what I was sharing (coded entries to see if it's me). I found sharing going on with files people got from me FOR ABOUT ONE DAY, possibly, 2 -- then nothing. They had removed from the network. I have a .txt note to shariers in my shared folder but frankly have removed them if no one will share them. I rotate what's in there twice per week, and will resume sharing about 250 files -- but you are absolutely right -- freeloaders should be purged!!
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Bad idea. The one big reason gnutella is so successful and has the
widest variety of files is because it welcomes all people even if they don't
have files to share. Attempting to force people to share something, anything,
always results in either them sharing millions of junk files from a Windows or
program folder or they end up sharing a small collection of what everyone else
already has shared.

The amount of people on the network with nothing to share has steadily
dropped over the years to a stable level of about 12%, and that's perfectly
healthy for the network on the whole
. Any selfish attempt to force the
percentage lower will just drive people away, doing more harm than good.

If you want a totalitarian network which ends up forcing nearly everyone into
copyright infringement then go to something like DC or one of those private
torrent trackers that think they're so kewl and leave the rest of us to share
in perfect freedom
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I do both

But like Stief it doesn't work very well to do both at the same time. I notice a great drop in how many uploads I get per session when acting as an UltraPeer

BTW I really wish that they would get that freeloaderfilter working. Then the people using Limewire can choose if Freeloaders are allowed RARELY (meaning people who share get priviledge in the queue). They get first the freeloader gets second
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