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Peerless January 18th, 2008 05:03 PM

the odds are very low if it was an honest one time (or very infrequent) mistake

tyciol January 21st, 2008 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardSimmons (Post 124404)
Hi,

While downloading normal porn I've seen some files that claim to be of underage models.

Since so many ppl on limewire go for this underage crap, it got me thinking. Is it illegal to have files of models under the age of 18?

I read some article about limewire and it sounded like the FBI was going after the people who made the underage movies, not just people who happened to have it on their computer.

Can anyone clarify this for me plz?

If that were illegal they'd never be able to sell swimsuits at clothing chains.

It's illegal to have sex photos and in many cases, sexualized (though how it is interpreted varies) photos, that's all.

OneDivineHammer January 31st, 2008 11:19 PM

I like other people here have accidentally downloaded child pornography by either clicking misnamed files or getting some unwanted files that were caught when I do mass downloads at one time. It is something you cannot avoid unless you begin to practice more cautious downloading. Unfortunately, law enforcement just doesn't have the resources to catch most pedophiles online... but they are trying. My advice to anyone using Limewire or any other p2p program is to watch your downloads like a hawk and always be patient when clicking on the files you want. Sometimes the search will jump right when you're about to click on something and you end up downloading a file you didn't want and many times won't catch it until you go to play it. Your chances of being brought against the law by accidental downloads is very very slim so don't freak out if it's happened to you. Like I said, law enforcement just doesn't have the resources. Like many people have said on here, the ones being looked at by law enforcement are the people sharing the content wether it is any form of pornography or just simple mp3s. But even then, if it was an accident, just delete or clean the files like people suggest and be more careful from then on. I personally set my share folder to a different folder than my incoming folder that way I can make sure I am not contributing to the problem.

Bottom line is, if you are downloading mp3s, just go buy the cd. If you are downloading porn, keep a very watchful eye on what you're doing. Always have your spyware and virus protection up to date because getting in trouble with the law isnt the only risk you take by using p2p programs, especially when getting porn.

tyciol February 21st, 2008 09:48 PM

I don't think you'd be immune to the risk by practicing cautious dwnloading. This is why, after learning about this risk, I don't download files off of limewire anymore. Mainly I just go on to browse what other people have. Honestly, if you take a screenshot of the file names that pop up when you type in some words, it shows the obvious implied content.

I don't really see why law enforcement goes after purposeful downloads either, it's data, go after the people making the stuff.

colt85 March 4th, 2008 06:49 PM

Limewire or old taxreturns
 
Best way of making sure no data is recovered.
1. take hard drive out of computer
2. Lay it on a flat hard surface
3. Take hammer and smash it into dust.
4. then dump into salt water.
5. dump it's pieces in different places.
That and only that will make sure it is never found on your computer.
Data recovery is so far ahead of the game that no program will delete it. Don't think for a moment it is. I don't care what you want to delete old pictures or tax returns Never give a hard drive away with the computer, never think that hard drive is dead and put in the trash, make sure take apart a burn the disk in. Now for flash memory it is in old cell phone or camera same hold true. It can be recovered.

AaronWalkhouse March 4th, 2008 08:43 PM

That sounds an awful lot like superstition. Superspies from the NSA are not going to
step in on every little case and save the day. People who download a single file by
accident are never going to warrant the huge expense of an attempt, and such
attempts frequently fail if secure deletion software is used.

Besides, people who collect illegal porn apparently collect a lot of it and don't delete
it, so the point is effectively moot. The guys who get caught always have a lot of it,
so imaginary super-CSI wizardry isn't necessary.

Peerless March 5th, 2008 12:08 PM

its NOT imaginary d00d...not at all...

take the time to pull out a vinyl disc and notice how you can hear 'cross talk' before the tune begins....think about it...then think about how one could (and it IS done) pull data off of the ridges of the disc...yep...that is how it is done...

if you choose the believe otherwise, then do so...but you are wrong...

AaronWalkhouse March 5th, 2008 03:28 PM

It's different on magnetic media. A secure delete routine throws enough noise at it to clean up
the edges too, which is why they run so many passes. What you're talking about is roughly
analogous to having never tried a secure wipe at all, which on vinyl would be like scraping out
the grooves so that even the crosstalk is gone.

At that point maybe Ensign Kim could recover something with a tricorder and some Borg
technology but probably not, since he's out of town and the Borg stuff is really expensive.http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhouse/tongue3.gif

Peerless March 5th, 2008 04:59 PM

uh huh...well that was a simile to direct you to a thought process that obviously went over (or perhaps under) your head....why do you think military spy planes have self destruct devices on their data recorders???? again, believe whatever you will, but you are wrong...

colt85 March 6th, 2008 09:08 PM

Hard drive data
 
For the people that do collect illegal porn. They need help. For the people that make it they need to be hung. I don't care what it is you have on your hard drive If you don't want to be seen, tax returns or pictures of your wife. The only sure way is to smash it into dust. I don't care what software you buy The FBI can undo it.


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