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michwayne December 3rd, 2009 04:55 PM

for people that dont know get peer guardian and on the phoenix labs site at the bottom right of the page click the I-Blocklist link theres a (pedophiles) list of known pedofiles. you can use it to create a list to block them in peerguardian click list manager/add put a check next to add url and at the top in description) name it somthing like p2p1 click ok it could help.

bci February 9th, 2010 09:49 AM

So...what does everyone think about that Matthew White CP Case? Do you think its fair/true? I'm a little confused as to the 1 year wait...or if it was really only a couple files...most of the cases i've seen where people get busted are people that are actively sharing a decent amount of CP for at least a month...but again idk how the FBI and what not work with these cases..What does everyone else think/know?

'Accidental' Download Sending Man To Prison - cbs13.com

heres the link if you havent heard of/read the story.

Blackhorse 70V February 9th, 2010 09:45 PM

Howdy bci, and welcome to the Gnutella Forums!

Claiming that CP was not the kind of porn that he intended to download was not his best move; he was either too honest and/or too stupid. However, if only one file on his machine could be classed as CP, and it was deleted two-years ago, (evidence of a mistake, rather than a repeat offender), then the proceedings against him are a huge waste of resources and an apparent violation of the legislative intent of the law.

However, imho, the FBI is not above ruining this young man's life in order to discourage ("illegal") p-p. How many people will be deterred after hearing that the kid got busted after accidently downloading only one file? Makes Limewire sound scary.

ukbobboy01 February 10th, 2010 12:13 AM

Hi BCI & Blackhorse 70V

I would've thought that the FBI should be out catching terrorist and organised criminals rather than busting a kid, barely out of his teenage years, for downloading porn.

You know, this seems to be about catching people out rather than justice or catching real criminals, i.e. the producers and distributors of CP.

All I can say is that it seems that the US is becoming more like China or Russia everyday where the law is used to keep ordinary citizens in their place, rather than protect, and justice is a joke.


UK Bob

Blackhorse 70V February 10th, 2010 03:57 AM

They do it under the guise of "general deterrance". I might believe that, if I had also read that a few producers of CP were busted. Surely there are a few idiots out there who download a lot of CP and then share or seed it. And they should be easier to find that a kid with one deleted file.

Haven't heard of any bankers or Wall Streeters going to jail, either (but at least we know that Martha Stewart learned her lesson!).

'Tis a thin line that separates top criminals from top officials.

ukbobboy01 February 10th, 2010 05:22 AM

or you could say there is one law for the wealthy and another law for people who have to use public defenders.

bci February 10th, 2010 06:39 AM

Well see, what I'm confused about the most is how they showed up a year after he had downloaded it/deleted it. What if that files(s) was over written, or what if that hard drive had been replaced? Going after someone a year after something happens, without any other recent evidence, would seem a bit...outrages/unethical/dangerous on THEIR part. I'm just curious as to how they even got a warrant...If they went there and couldn't find anything in his possession, i don't believe they would have even been able to charge him with anything..however i have seen a case where someone really did get nabbed a year after they downloaded some(3 files), but they were sharing it and an officer downloaded it from them. However, they didnt threaten him with any jail time, or made him register as a sex offender. He just couldnt be around kids alone. They also found 16 other files on his computer after they confiscated it. And this is just my oppinion, but I'm thinking the only reason they went after him a year later was because he was still sharing those files..

Idk..this is confusing..lol

Orange County Ca February 10th, 2010 08:12 AM

Bad news guys:
 
ukbobboy01 said: "I would've thought that the FBI should be out catching terrorist and organised criminals rather than busting a kid, barely out of his teenage years, for downloading porn".

The FBI is no different than any other law enforcement organization. Their agents are promoted and slapped on the back for one thing and one thing only. Arrests. If they can arrest some 16 year old kid for looking at a naked 17 year old kid then they will. Oh they'll claim its in the name of ....bla bla bla... but in fact arrests are the name of their game.

Prosecutors are the same - they are interested in convictions alone - forget common sense.

Why do you think a girl was arrested for SENDING a nude picture of HERSELF to a boy who was ALSO arrested? Ruin a kids life? Who cares as long as the law enforcement officer gets a check mark on their score card.

Blackhorse 70V February 10th, 2010 09:34 AM

I, too, question how the FBI knew about the file, and why they took so long. Indeed, they risked not finding anything (young nerds frequently swap out drives).

Then there's no telling who got p'd off after their kid downloaded a nasty, and then called their friend - the Senator, A.G., judge...

ukbobboy01 February 11th, 2010 04:47 AM

Guys

I too find that there are "holes" in this story, for example unless this youngster's Limewire app was secretly communicating with the FBI (which is possible) how could they possibly know he had this objectional material?

Also, usually the authorities and the record industry can only find out if you have something if it is being shared in your "Share and Imcomplete" folders.

Unless told otherwise, I can only believe that this youngster must have inadvertantly shared these dodgy files over a period of time and then deleted them.

Even so I still think that the FBI catching this kid only warrants giving him a caution/warning rather than a conviction.


UK Bob


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