And I feel no same cracking it!
 

that's what I am trying to say: I have no moral dificulties caracking spyware, as well as adware (most often you get two in one, arent you?)

--Max

..so is it possible to say what *is* a safe client (sans spyware?) I'd really appreciate knowing since I've been searching for hours but the ones that aren't known to be bundling it don't specifically say they're *not* - and I'm not ready to make the leap of faith over to "clean" limeware.

Three Gnutella clients are using spyware:

- bearshare
- swapnut
- Limewire (only the "FREE" windows version!)

Morgwen

To keep you uptodate....
here another interesting thread about past and current spyware in LimeWire:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=7908

I'm proud to admit that spyware has changed my life. When I first heard about spyware, I thought, "hey man, what's all that fuzz about". Today I can't live without it.

I don't think spyware is just some piece of software, really, it's rather a state of mind. And now-a-days, when I look at LimeWire or Bearshare running, I'm proud to be using spyware, so developers can make a living and deliver great software like those two gnutella clients for free.

--
"By using spyware-free gnutella clients you support global terrorism."
George W. Bush

Its not "FREE" - there are clients that are "FREE" in price and "FREE" of spyware!

This are "FREE" clients!

Morgwen

You should mention that under Linux Limewire does NOT install spyware! And YOU are using Linux!

Troll John!

Morgwen

NT Deathware
 

I had recently updated my Limewire (which I loved). During the install procedure I noticed the "by the way we need to pay our 6 new programmer's salaries so...blah blah...advertisement" message. WHAT??? I was not amused. Oh well...
I was even less amused when the install procedure proceeded to reboot (damn!) and I ended up with the NT blue screen of death (yikes!!!). "Last known configuration" failed, my ERD failed, I was getting nervous by now. VGA boot passed and I was able to weed out most of the malignant spies from my registries (at least 4) and windows (dlls) using Lavasft Ad-Aware. I then found and ran aureateremove.exe. I am still unable to reboot and service packs didn't help either. It's format c:\ and re-install everything. Nice. Really nice.
Spies are one thing, blowing up my workstation is another.
Can anyone out here recommend a basic stable spy-free gnutella client for me ol' NT?
Many thanks,
Scalded.

Re: NT Deathware
 

gnucleus

Cydoor & friends
 

You know , what some of these companies ought to do is what Opera does with their web browser. Cydoor is in Opera, but it doesn't operate unless you are running the program, and doesn't have a separate .dll that resides outside of the program.

Most of us appreciate having full time developers working on programs, I know I do. I also know that bandwidth and servers take time and money to upkeep, so I dont mind supporting good programs with a few ads and whatnot, but HATE popups and porn banners interrupting my downloads (CLUE: I am not interested in porn, and even if I were, I'm sure not going to go give my credit card to some foreign, offshore scammer, HELLOOOOOOOOOO!!)

Topmoxie and ezula are totally unacceptable, gator maybe useful, I dont trust it with my info anymore than I trust Microsoft Wallet, or Passport. These programs absolutely betray your trust to profiteers and scumlords. They also ripoff webmasters who are relying on ads for their website to operate, although as a business plan ads seem to leave a lot to be desired, even slashdot has a subscription now.

In short they need to find a better way to roll ads into the product
without being intrusive, and give users a means to opt-out of ALL bundled software if they want.

You now have a choice.
You can now block the spyware/adware clients.
You no longer have to contribute your network resources or CPU cycles to spyware clients.
You have the choice, and the power.
http://opensourcep2p.sf.net

Windows and Linux versions available.

More inforrmation plz
 

You want to be better informed? Then post your voice also in this tread at popular Zeropaid filesharing portal:

http://www.zeropaid.com/cgi-bin/ub/U...dback&Post=101

Stop the greed.

Re: More inforrmation plz
 

List of all Gnutella clients with spyware/scumware:

Bearshare *infected*
Limewire *infected*
Morpheus *infected*
Swapnut *infected*

everyone else is clean!!

Stop spamming the forums with your selfish, don't wanna share with everyone, network.

Go build your own damn forum or something.

Again mrgone or another BS fan,

Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves.

adware/spyware/scumware and its behavior
 

Have a look on this Adware scoreboard with listing of modern adware and ratings
http://download.com.com/1200-20-884830.html?tag=sptlt

Not exactly on the topic at hand, but....
 

Do you want to know how to force people to accept your spyware? Simple, do like RadLight did and HAVE YOUR INSTALLER UNINSTALL AD AWARE FROM THE USER'S MACHINE WHEN THEY INSTALL YOUR PRODUCT!

Here's the link to the Ad Aware message boards with the story:

http://www.lavasoft.nu/cgi-bin/forum...t=ST;f=20;t=13

EDIT: Addendum: The author of RadLight stated that he was trying to prove a point that since Ad Aware forces the removal of spyware -- the only component to allow some developers to make money from their products -- that he would force the removal of Ad Aware to get his point across... his point being that Ad Aware, in his opinion, participates in the illegal removal of legally installed software (adware/spyware components). Of course, it backfired on him big time, but I suppose that was to be expected.

Spyware vs. anti-spyware
 

An interview with Ad-Aware's Nicholas Stark
http://salon.com/tech/feature/2002/0...are/index.html

It won't make much difference soon. Looks like FreePeers has decided to bundle Cydoor with Bearshare. That may turn out to be the final spyware nail in BearShare's coffin.

Yes and they want to offer a PRO version... for 10 bucks!

btw, the first Xolox betas are out - only for a few people right now... but I hope it will be released soon... who really cares about these spyware clients anymore? :)

Morgwen

Originally posted by Morgwen

> who really cares about these spyware clients anymore? :)

just by using a free client you're fighting back!

Well, I care. The majority of computer users do not even know what spyware is. They are usually the real victims of spyware, and are often infected by spyware clients. You have done a lot to remedy this situation, however. Thanks Morgwen! You have done as much for the Gnutella community as any of the developers, IMHO at least.

Thanks! :)

Yes I care about the spyware, too! But I hope/know that many will switch over to Xolox or other clients, especially now after bearshare will use cydoor!

Morgwen

Morg, you should really try to keep up to date on these things. BearShare 2.6 does not come with cydoor. Cydoor elicited a hell of a responce by just about everyone at BearShare.net and it looks like Freepeers is reexamining their options.

I am SOOO sorry that I didn´t test the NEW version which was released yesterday!

Yes you are right I should REALLY test every version of every client immediatly, because I have no private life! :rolleyes:

And of course I have to read ALL websites that I know which client released a new version! Did you see that Becker don´t updated his annoucement?

I don´t visit bearshare.net very often so if somebody is more up to date he can post his infos here but don´t expect that I can know everything!

Morgwen

I was just ribbing you a little Morg, relax :)

:p

Morgwen

NO WAY!!!You like lime wire and want it with no ads for free?Get freewire:D!Or you can get Neo-Napster.:)

KaZaA
 

i don't give a damn about spyware or anything else as long as i get my stuff for free and easy. I get everything off KaZaA... :D

Re: Don't believe the hype
 

"The Washington Post is reporting that a number of publishers, including the Washington Post, is suing Gator Corp. over their obnoxious spyware, saying that Gator is "a parasite that free rides on the hard work and investment" of other people's web sites. The lawsuit alleges that Gator's spyware contributes to trademark infringement, misappropriation of the news, and represents unfair competition." Found on Slashdot.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2002Jun26.html

Yes
 

Note that we never bundled Gator, nor will we ever in the future.

How about a list with spyware/scumware installed in the past?

Spyware
 

Spyware is avoidable. Keep your eyes open and pay attention during those install sequences. You may learn more than you think. Not all of us enjoy the luxury of a process veiwer.

Re: Spyware