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View Poll Results: Do you accept spyware?
Yes 9 6.72%
No 122 91.04%
Spyware, what??? 3 2.24%
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Old December 7th, 2001
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Yes Moak!

XP is an improvent on NT/2000...

But John cannot know all... but he thinks so...

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After announcing Windows NT Microsoft hired UNIX developers and they bought into a UNIX company named Santa Cruz Operation. In addition Windows NT complies with the POSIX (Portable Operating System Interface for Unix) standards.

Windows NT had a lot more in common with UNIX than with MS-DOS and although it is just a rumour that NT contained pieces BSD-code, they were at least inspired by it.
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Miaaoo!

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Originally posted by John Blackbelt Jones In addition Windows NT complies with the POSIX (Portable Operating System Interface for Unix) standards. [/B]
Actually this was a big joke at the time. NT's POSIX support was a last minute add-on and absolute crap at that. They needed to claim support since it was a requirement for certain government bids, but it never actually worked. Aside from the TCP/IP stack, the whole NT/BSD thing is mostly urban legend. Too bad actually, BSD is far more stable.
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Coming back to topic. I wonder if even John still denies the trouble of spyware?
Before you answers.... read what the developer of Bearshare wrote at gnutella.com: "Gator is an extremely underhanded company. We repeatedly turned down their deals because they always had something sneaky up their sleeves. Yes, Gator will install Web3000 and even Onflow. They neglected to tell LimeWire about it." Thx for honesty! Read the full comment at http://www.gnutella.com/forums/general/34
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Exclamation Unclear point!
Still one unclear point about spytools in limewire is cydoor, the only non optional component. LimeCrew states it does not diclose personal information; on the other side others say that it is one of the worst things on the net...
Personally I believe that lime crew says this honestly, but is it really like that? Is cydoor (or this cydoor product) only a ad delivery system? Please respond,
___________________________Carlo out.
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AFAIK Limewire made them now also full optional, great!
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Nope. At least not until Microsoft buys off enough legislators to make alternative OS'es illegal under the DMCA! ;-)
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Exclamation Spyware/Trojan fiasko
For the records... recent spyware bundler did deliver a new trojan/spyware (DLDER) together with their clients. Those have been our old and well known spyware friends:

- Bearshare (Gnutella clone)
- LimeWire (Gnutella clone)
- Kazaa (FastTrack clone)
- Grokster (FastTrack clone)

If you did recently use one of those client, make sure you use a _new_ anti virus (TrendMicro) or anti spyware tool (AdAware) today! You won't see any warning on the webpages of those vendors, but the existance was proofen on many webpages:

http://wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,49430,00.html
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8335745.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/intern...y.ap/index.html
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../01012002a.php
http://www.bearshare.net/forum/showt...&threadid=8252
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=6423
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=6781

It seems those vendors do not have controll over their spyware, sorry boys, but isn't it true? The new trojan/spyware was allways installed without asking the user (non optional), the vendors rated this piece of software 'Adware'.

If you don't like Spyware - don't use it. Choose a spyware free gnutella client!

PS: LimeWire finally issued an official statement: http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/trojan
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