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Old January 23rd, 2002
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Thumbs down Who is flooding the Gnutella Network???

Just try the following:
First, search for 'a beautiful mind divx'
then search for 'a beautiful divx' and tell me if you are seeing the same weird behaviour I did.

"a beautiful mind divx" sends me about 600 results, "a beautiful divx" just 30. Of those 600 hosts some don't even seem to be running gnutella clients (although many do).

I guess it's some MPAA trick. What I would like is find out the IPs of those clients spreading those messages, to be able to block them...
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How do you know they donīt use Gnutella clients?
How do you know it is a trick?

Blocking other people is not the idea of Gnutella!

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Hi,
most Gnutella clients do search ORed, not ANDed as most of us expect (search engine behaviour). So searching for 'beautiful divx' will list all files containing beautiful in the filename + all files containing DivX in the filename. A lot of files. :-) Together with 'mind' you will find even more, e.g also songs from 'Simple Minds'. Conspiracy theory end, closing this G-file. *g*

Hope it helps, Moak

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I might not know much about Gnutella, but you seem to have even less knowledge on that subject than me.

Nearly all of the gnutella clients search with 'AND', - but most of them also have an algorithm to find files with similar but not exactly the same filenames.

All of the 600 files I found contain "a beautiful mind divx", but strangely files containing "a beautiful divx" seem to be quite rare. And even weirder I found it, that I received one file 117 times from 117 different hosts but none of those files could be downloaded.
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I might not know much about Gnutella, but you seem to have even less knowledge on that subject than me.
Yes Moak and me are Gnutella newbies!

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Oops, guest is right about ANDed search, my fault!

Perhaps someone explains client busy states and NAT/firewall problematics... and why it's not a MPAA/RIAA conspiracy, when you can't download files. No need to block someone. I need a nap. :-)

Have a nice day, sorry for telling stupid things, Moak

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Why didn't you try the search yourself? You would quickly see what I mean:

Today 17:28 CET, two searches with LimeWire 2.13 Beta, being connected to 6 Ultrapeers.

search phrase one: "a beautiful mind divx"
returns 540 files, counting only video files larger than 100MBytes.

search phrase two: "lord of the rings divx"
returns 17 files, counting only video files larger than 100Mbytes.

Do you really believe "a beautiful mind" was that much more popular than "lord of the rings"?

I checked the hits I got from a beautiful minds: almost no firewalled hosts, 50% four-star-results (highest LimeWire-Rating), no repeating IP-addresses. Am I the only one here, who believes that's odd? There is no possibility for such a result to be normal. Somebody's got to be generating bogus-queryhits, so as few people as possible would find the real files.
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Moak is a lazy *******
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Moak is a lazy *******
Moak drinks to much milk!

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Searching for beautiful mind (only video) gives 91 results,

Searching for beautiful : 16 results
Searching for mind: 22 results

The question is how can you get more results with a more specific search?
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