make up your mind I dunno, you guys just can't agree ... one minute we're a new protocol, the next minute we're not .. are you two trolls? |
Either way it has no place on gnutella. 1) If you are a new network then stop trying to freeload off gnutella. 2) If you are not a new network then you are intentionally attacking other gnutella clients and damaging the network. Also not very welcome here. |
heh? what? what are you talking about? |
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This "open source net" isnīt a new protocol - yes if you want to change something you should write a new one! But blocking other clients is stupid! You have the free choice which client you use, no one force you to use lw or bear! Yes some of us trying to change somethin in a constructive way, not in a destrcutive way! Think about it... If you have to say something do it without your flames - next time I delete your post! Morgwen |
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I suspect that you are one of those people who will lose money if this becomes popular. Is your stock going to go down? |
Another example of greed (from slashdot) Bandwidth Shortage And The Telephone Company Posted by timothy on Thursday March 21, @08:00PM from the companies-like-to-make-money dept. FasterThanLight writes: "This article from USA Today regarding (non)usage of existing fiber and its impact on bandwidth in the semi-near future ... more doom and gloom. Why? Greed, of and by the (surprise, surprise) large telcos." Remember, this story is about a predicted shortage, not a current shortage. -------- You let them slip in and then you get screwed every time. Government does the same thing. They found out they have a golden goose via bandwidth and will suck it for everything they can get. If new technology comes out that increases your bandwidth they will suppress it and dole it out in small steps all the while you pay big $$ for little bandwidth. How can you stop this? Greed sucks! Morgwen, I thought you of all people would be the first to jump on this and run a node, so I don't understand. So let's talk about your ideas on how to stop the greed and commercialism on Gnutella. People have been whining and complaining about adware, spyware, spy packets and greed for more than a year now and nothing has been done. Those companies are pushing farther and farther the things that people will stand for. This is what they do, they creep in a little at a time. Nip it in the bud! Talk is cheap, at least this is actually doing something about it right now today and it's real. Just the threat of this will make commercial interests think twice before screwing people over. I don't see how you can stop them without blocking them. They won't leave and create their own network because they will lose $$ that way, and lose their back up plan (the free client "outsiders" surrounding their private networks). If most free clients let the user block by choice, and places like this forum post lists of commercial clients, that may keep things in check, but is it enough? And what is so wrong with free open source clients sharing files with other free open source clients on the "other" network? If full blocking is added, free clients will be able to share both ways as far as I can tell. Think about this and come up with a reasonable real world solution we can implement today, right now. I will gladly do the coding of any program changes for your idea. |
Please add 'last changed' info to P2P web site Anonnn, please add last-changed info to the top of the website <A HREF="http://opensourcep2p.sourceforge.net/">http://opensourcep2p.sourceforge.net/</A> <A HREF="http://snow.prohosting.com/openp2p/">http://snow.prohosting.com/openp2p/</A> It is too much information on one page to easily check for changes. Unregistered |
I don't understand the point What are you trying to do? have a network that only uploads to each other, like fasttrack? How is Limewire not open source? I cvs Limewire at Limewire.org all the time. I also am a Pro user, because I want to support their efforts and bandwidth costs. $8.50 isn't that much money, and besides, they are improving the network.Too cheap for that? clean limewire (if they didn't become firewire, lol) might be back. I also cvs Gnucleus , and try to make constructive suggestions for improvement in that client also. Swabby was totally professional when morpheus grabbed his code for commercial gain. Do you see him typing a bunch of negative shi t about them? No, and you probably won't either. He just keeps improving his client, and Ultrapeers is on his todo list, along with other cool stuff. GodX fixed his Peerahna client so that it works on NT when I reported that bug. His client isn't open source, are you going to block it? Or Xolox?Gnotella? In short, what you are doing is worse than what BS and LW are doing, since they are adding something to the experience. |
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being objective --- seems to me that 20 nodes would do it and 100 would be critical mass 'cause horizon is never that far and most files I see are the same and kaza is closed and it not hurt'n gnutella and 100 nodes don't be missed so go for it |
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