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Iamnacho May 7th, 2002 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
ignore Taliban
EXACTLY... the only people spyware is good for is the companies that make the spyware

Morgwen May 8th, 2002 04:58 PM

Yes,

but what the most people here try to explain there are other possibilities than spyware!

Nobody said its a bad thing to earn money!

Morgwen

PizzaChillieman May 8th, 2002 05:26 PM

What Pizzaman (me) is pointing out to you is that spyware paid companies do not care how they make money, they have no ethic guidelines and so do the programmers. But programmers do actually write the software, without them there would be no crap-ware and they should take the responsibility which companies don't want to take.

The point is clear, without programmers making spyware or using spyware in own products, there would be no spyware in the world. Computer technology is a step into our future and culture, a wrong use will harm us all. Isn't it time for a coder's oath? Ask yourself, would you need to get a honest job, are you proud on all your work?

You ARE responsible, not only your boss.

Unregistered May 8th, 2002 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by afisk
What Taliban is pointing out to you is that without forms of revenue, there would be no companies to produce the software that you may or may not use. I realize that many of you think that's a good thing, but there would be a whole lot less content out there if the commercial developers weren't around.
How many spyware paid companies do you know? Most companies have a business model, make money from customers which agree to pay money and don't need to steal money. If your product isn't worth to be paid, then it's not worth to be used!

But instead of following western business rules, you publicise a modern way of stealing money from customers: bundling sypware/hijackware/crapware! In another thread, Afisk, you didn't even know how many hijackware your company has bundled so far. It's a shame that this isn't illegal. You lost on the free market. Your company's reputation needs to be ashamed and your fooled customers need to be educated not to use your product.

Morgwen May 8th, 2002 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by Taliban
Spyware is good, it supports Gnutella development efforts with money.
Ähem...

you post in every second post how cool spyware is and this helps Gnutella etc. - I really ask me WHY DON`T YOU USE IT THEN?

Yes I know you want that other user pay for you, because you use Linux, let the "stupid" windows user pay...

man don´t tell us what we have to do if you don´t want to do it, Ok?

Morgwen

Unregistered May 8th, 2002 06:06 PM

good point, Morgwen!
word of the day is 'hipocrisy' again and goes to Taliban.

Taliban May 8th, 2002 10:38 PM

I decided to give my money to LimeWire directly...

Unregistered May 10th, 2002 10:04 AM

http://opensourcep2p.sf.net/
free and spyware free!
block the greed

Unregistered May 10th, 2002 12:22 PM

Are you arguing the fact that you are not told about the spyware or that it is there. In other words if you knew you were installing thrid party software would it then be ok to earn money that way?

Unregistered May 10th, 2002 10:02 PM

spyware is a lame excuse for people who don't know how to run a proper business, which includes proper marketing, advertising and sales.
these companies sluff that off on to other companies and wonder why they have to get more and more agressive in order to support BOTH companies.
spyware sucks, it doesn't matter if they tell you or not.
and greed will always corrupt them so you can't trust them with your computer.


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