i am running 3.4.4 on 10.2.6 and it keeps shutting down (within hours of starting).

both HD and system are set for never sleep.

i hate leaving my system on if i nor others will bennifit.

greg

1)how many files are you sharing? Size of the share? (too many could cause memory and threads problems)

2)are you behind a router? (if yes too many connections could cause it to cut the connection and possibly make Lw crash)

3)are you an ultrapeer? (being an ultrapeer could increase chances of getting problems on your 'puter)

4)are you using the LW from limewire.com? (if you are using the Jum's java 1.4 builds, I've found it crashes too much for me, so I'm using the basic .com version)

5)you could always post here the crash logs in the console in the utilities folder.

Bonne chance

I'm sharing 1172 files. 1/3 the MB are mpg (Christian orientated of course).

no router, just a cable modem from Comcast.

and I am running LM Pro 3.4.4 from LW.

as for the Log, the attatchment process has been bring my machine to a near hault, so I'll past some of the last log enties: Thread 503:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 504:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 505:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 506:
#0 0x900256ec in select
#1 0x9287f5ac in JVM_Timeout
#2 0x93db1510 in Java_java_net_SocketInputStream_socketRead
#3 0x022eb2d8 in 0x22eb2d8
#4 0x022ead80 in 0x22ead80
#5 0x02490014 in 0x2490014
#6 0x022a3680 in 0x22a3680
#7 0x022e2b34 in 0x22e2b34
#8 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#9 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#10 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#11 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#12 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#13 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#14 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#15 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#16 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#17 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#18 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#19 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#20 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#21 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#22 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#23 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#24 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#25 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 507:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 508:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 509:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 510:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 511:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 512:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 513:
#0 0x900256ec in select
#1 0x9287f5ac in JVM_Timeout
#2 0x93db1510 in Java_java_net_SocketInputStream_socketRead
#3 0x022eb2d8 in 0x22eb2d8
#4 0x022ead80 in 0x22ead80
#5 0x02490014 in 0x2490014
#6 0x022a3680 in 0x22a3680
#7 0x022e2b34 in 0x22e2b34
#8 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#9 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#10 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#11 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#12 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#13 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#14 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#15 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#16 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#17 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#18 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#19 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#20 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#21 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#22 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#23 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#24 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#25 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 514:
#0 0x90073c08 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0x9283de9c in JVM_NewInstance
#3 0x92845d80 in JVM_ArrayCopy
#4 0x9285d620 in JVM_MonitorNotify
#5 0x9285e2f8 in JVM_MonitorWait
#6 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#9 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#10 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#11 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#12 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#13 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#14 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#15 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#16 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#17 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#18 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#19 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#20 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#21 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 515:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 516:
#0 0x90073c08 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0x9283de9c in JVM_NewInstance
#3 0x92845d80 in JVM_ArrayCopy
#4 0x9285d620 in JVM_MonitorNotify
#5 0x9285e2f8 in JVM_MonitorWait
#6 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#9 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#10 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#11 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#12 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#13 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#14 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#15 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#16 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#17 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#18 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#19 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#20 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#21 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#22 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 517:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 518:
#0 0x90073c08 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0x9283de9c in JVM_NewInstance
#3 0x92845d80 in JVM_ArrayCopy
#4 0x9285d620 in JVM_MonitorNotify
#5 0x9285e2f8 in JVM_MonitorWait
#6 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#9 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#10 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#11 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#12 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#13 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#14 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#15 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#16 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#17 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#18 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#19 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#20 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#21 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#22 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 519:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 520:
#0 0x90073c08 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0x9283de9c in JVM_NewInstance
#3 0x92845d80 in JVM_ArrayCopy
#4 0x9285d620 in JVM_MonitorNotify
#5 0x9285e2f8 in JVM_MonitorWait
#6 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#9 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#10 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#11 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#12 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#13 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#14 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#15 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#16 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#17 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#18 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#19 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#20 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#21 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#22 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 521:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 522:
#0 0x90073c08 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0x9283de9c in JVM_NewInstance
#3 0x92845d80 in JVM_ArrayCopy
#4 0x9285d620 in JVM_MonitorNotify
#5 0x9285e2f8 in JVM_MonitorWait
#6 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#9 0x021005cc in 0x21005cc
#10 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#11 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#12 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#13 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#14 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#15 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#16 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#17 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#18 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#19 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#20 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#21 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

Thread 523:
#0 0x9001138c in connect
#1 0x93db1e80 in Java_java_net_PlainSocketImpl_socketConnect
#2 0x02102668 in 0x2102668
#3 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#4 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#5 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#6 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#7 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#8 0x0210068c in 0x210068c
#9 0x0210086c in 0x210086c
#10 0xa2843c38 in _ZTSSt13bad_exception
#11 0x92838bdc in JVM_CurrentTimeMillis
#12 0x92878c28 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#13 0x92892c90 in JVM_IsSameClassPackage
#14 0x9288cf70 in JVM_GetMethodIxExceptionTableEntry
#15 0x928787a0 in JVM_FindClassFromClass
#16 0x928a51fc in JVM_GetClassMethodsCount
#17 0x90020c88 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x900744d0 srr1: 0x0200d030 vrsave: 0xff000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x900548bc ctr: 0x00000001 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xfa342b40 r2: 0x00000000 r3: 0xfa342be0
r4: 0x088a2000 r5: 0x00000108 r6: 0x00000010 r7: 0x00000020
r8: 0x00000030 r9: 0x00000108 r10: 0x00000060 r11: 0x00000080
r12: 0xfa342ca0 r13: 0x07db3710 r14: 0x650a6528 r15: 0x00e5fe23
r16: 0xfa343430 r17: 0x000edf4c r18: 0xfa343688 r19: 0xfa343468
r20: 0x6c442d50 r21: 0x6c440ea7 r22: 0x0000008e r23: 0x021014a0
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x0000002f r26: 0x00000004 r27: 0xfa342df0
r28: 0xfa342be0 r29: 0x0888eb50 r30: 0xa00006a4 r31: 0x90054840

thanks

I'm no programmer but it seems it takes too much threads (too much memory, maybe 'cause your sharing too much files). I would do 2 things:
Send the LW crash report to bugs@limewire.org (or .com?) and share less non useful stuff (stuff that is widespread on the network, keep what is "rare").

En passant, what are christian orientated songs? Limp Biskit?, Eminem?

if the log started
Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000090
then I think this is the Apple JVM bug Jens-Ewe was told by Apple that has been fixed in Panther. They didn't tell him if it would be fixed in Jaguar.

The only way I've found around it so far is to shutdown long enough to clear the memory, and make LW (it happens to me in either the regular or jum builds) the first app to open.

btw et voilà, yesterday the LWPRo beta 3.5.1 ran fine for 8 hrs on a stock G4; I switched the connection, and it started crashing every ~1/2 hr. The G3 running jum205 and the dp version of Java had no trouble with the connection change and is still running today. Tomorrow might be the opposite, so it's not build vs regular here . . . just very irritating and unpredictable.

Cheers. Hope Apple fixes this.

salut stief, the problem is that the jum build's gui is freezing every hour or two making lw to use 100% of the cpu of my imac g3 (the core still seems to upload stuff), while the basic version is up for days and uploading gigs of stuff at 13k/s....

Ainsi va la vie qui va...

Ah--merci--I may have seen that too. I'll watch more closely. Does it show up in the console, or just the beach ball . . .
["and life goes on"?]

It's beach ball time or if I'd have a sandy desktop it would be volley ball time....
There is no english equivalent, but: and life goes on is +/- similar.

Oh well, thanks for understanding, hopefully Apple will fix things.

et voilà, I was kidding about the Christian stuff, besides, they are not MP3, but rather MPGs.

Darn! Knew i shouldn't have said anything about the G3--just had a JVM crash while reading your reply Greg (only 109 threads; sharing 866 files), and it was fine for a week.

If you can find a better fix than the shutdown voodoo, please post back! I hope Apple doesn't go the MS route and use the bugs to market new OS software.

btw et voilà, I think I got the GUI freeze messing with the bug message or proxy prefs on the G4, but not using the dp java on the G3. I'll keep looking. Any more ideas?