Sames crashes as other Mac users
 

I have a G3 Powerbook with plenty of ram and a high speed connection. It crashes usually within 2-5 minutes of launch and freezes up the whole machine. What can I do?

Apparently -- cry. Then ... cry more. Since it doesn't appear that anything is being done to resolve this problem at all.

The new beta version may work better for you. It's available at:

http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/download_beta

*whine*
 

I really hate to say this after all the work you do, but no -- 1.9 beta does not solve the problem. It still freezes randomly, mostly at startup, forcing a reboot.

LimeWire does require a pretty powerful machine to run well, particularly on the Mac. You need at least 50 or so MB of RAM, for example. Unfortunately, there is really nothing we can do about this (this is required by the version of Java on Mac Classic). What are the specifications of your machine?

Thanks.

Specs
 

G4 with 128 Mb hard ram and a bunch of virtual ram on the side... Can't really see how that would be the issue... I sure hope we'll find out what the problem is, though, I miss my time stalking for the right files :)

I am very surprised that you would experience problems with a G4 with that much RAM. The system periodically freezes on you? Does it happen past startup? There is a reason it could freeze for awhile right at the beginning (namely that dns lookups as it's trying to resolve the router.limewire.com address can freeze the Mac if they take a little while -- ignore this if it means nothing to you), but freezes once you're connected to the network are very strange. Do you ever get freezes, for example, after being connected for 5 minutes or so.

Also, if you have a chance it would be great if you could take a look at the Connections tab as soon as possible on startup to see if the freezes seem to be related to who it's connecting to. You could see it freeze, for example, when it's connecting to router.limewire.com or connect1.gnutellanet.com, and then unfreeze right when these disappear.

Thanks.

limewire totally screwed up my system
 

limewire crashed all the time (eg if I click outside the limewire window) and it has even corrupted my system ... wasn't even able to boot anymore, so it has cost me a lot of money :(

specs: G4 733 with 640mb ram

I am very sorry to hear that LimeWire caused so much damage. The problem with clicking outside of the window is fixed in 1.9 beta. Which Mac OS were you using when you encountered this problem, by the way?

Well, can't say not being able to run Limewire cost me any money, it's just a darn shame since none of the other gnutella clients out there reach its knees.

The crashes seem to occur pretty randomly -- it usually loads up fine, connects to the networks, and then wham. Sometimes I can run searches and download for up to 30 minutes or even an hour before it goes down.

When it does go down, it's usually one of two things that happen. Either the entire computer freezes and the marquee turns into a little odd thing that at best looks like 4-6 tiny lines of written text, or Limewire freezes but you can still move the mouse -- but in order to quit or do anything you still have to reboot the computer.

It's not at all unlikely that the problem is in truth connected with some of the networks out there -- we all know how fickle Java can be -- question is, whether we can determine the culprit's identity so you folks can fix it. I'll see what I can do in that department at least.

Hhmnn...we had hoped this issues were solved with 1.7, where we fixed an erroneous nslookup we were making that was at least causing some of the freezes. You are not firewalled, is that correct? I strongly suspect the issue has something to do with accepting incoming connections (keep looking at that connections tab!!). This is also strange because most users do not experience these problems (my girlfriend, for example).

Are you maintaining a high number of connections? I would put the likelihood at about 50% that the issue has something to do with the networking, particularly connections. Do you get the problem when you're not uploading or downloading files, for example? Also, you could try holding down the control key as you select the LimeWire icon. This will bring up a menu with an "Open" option. On some Mac OSes this will create an output window that will display any error messages returned.

Thanks very much for your help. Are others experiencing these problems? We definitely lose track of the forum sometimes, so I'll have a look around at other threads.

I was using version 1.9 beta and it didn't freeze, but it just dissappeared (mostly when I clicked outside the limewire window)
Since Limewire is the best program on mac for p2p downloads (according my humble opinion) I didn't remove it from my system and just reopened it after every crash, but I ended up regretting it big time...

I am using OS 9.2.1 and OS X (installed, but not using it ... yet)
G4 733
640mb
firewalled (router)

Jeroen

Did this same problem occur with older versions of LimeWire (the crash when clicking outside of the window)?? Has anyone tried running it with holding down the control key to get the console window to appear for debugging output? When you try this, you have to keep holding down control until you see the window appear.

You also should see files on your system called "err.txt" and "out.txt." They should be in the directory where you installed LimeWire. Can anyone experiencing problems attach these files in an e-mail to me at afisk@limepeer.com? Thanks very much.

i installed the beta because the previous version crashed, so no improvement to my dissappointment ...
i would love to help you out, but you can't blame me not taking the risk anymore of reinstalling ;)

hope you can solve it, i'll check here regularly ... i miss limewire already :rolleyes:

J

If you have the err.txt and the out.txt files on your system (in the directory where you installed LimeWire), it would be a great help if you could e-mail them to me at afisk@limepeer.com.

Thanks.

sorry, i deleted the entire directory :(

take care

No problem. I'll do some more rigorous testing on the Mac myself. If others have these files, though, they would be a big help. Thanks.

RAM TO IT
 

I use 85.4 MB RAM set to Limewire, there is never a crash. To increase RAM single click the closed Limewire application icon, then in the file menu go to Get Info - Memory and manually reset the partition. andy

MRJ Problem may cause crashes
 

I have been experiencing the same crashes as you all. I have a G4 with 512 mg, and huge amolunts of HD space. I actually stopped using Limewire when I needed to replace all the data on the hard drive and more.

However, I think that the problem may be due to incompatibilities in the MRJ files from Apple. I have now disabled the FAXStf files, and hope this solves my problems. I think it will stop the crashes when I click on the menu bars (Apple refers to this specifically.)

Check out the Apple support site and get more info on this for yourself.
B.

I just don't understand why lime wire won't install on my period. It keeps on throwing stuff in the trash the a couple of install error boxes come up that say something about java. I have a 350mhz g3 with 320 megs of ram and i run 9.1. I would apprecitate it if i can get an explanation for this so i can run lime wire.

crashfest
 

I installed Limewire 2.0.2 beta and still get the same type 2 crash when I click anywhere in the menubar. I tried increasing the ram with no change. While I can click in the finder without the crash, I can't keep a window open on the desktop for every open program I use. And as with previous versions, the program also does not retain the options I set. I am running OS 9.2.2 on an iMac DV 500 with 768 megs of ram and virtual memory on. I would gladly pay the small fee for the new version if the program didn't routinely crash when I try to put it in the background. The err.txt file is blank.

???

I also have a G4 with 512 mgs ram and I DID pay for the updated program and it still crashes when I click on the menu bar. I just try to make sure I am not doing anything else when I am searching and downloading.

Did I mention that I had to restore my system software after I installed limewire? I felt this was interesting (no mac guru here) as I never had trouble before.

Limewire worked fine for a while then, after installing Norton Antiviurs, I had similar problems with it crashing/freezing as have been described. I put all of the Limewire files in the trash and downloaded it again. (unfortunately I also threw away all of my shared folder--stupid). Anyway, I still had the crashing problems. I then tried deactivating Antivirus and the crashing problem stopped. Does this make any sense? If so, what do I do about virus protection?

crashes
 

I, too, have the crashes whenever I click outside the Gnutella window on my new white iBook: 9.1, 384MB RAM. I'm using version 1.8b. In my case, the crashes happen with a window which refers to "Error of type 2 made Limewire unexpectedly quit..." and, as w/an above complainer, when I click the finder.

I found this "solution" at one FAQ site for Limewire:

"Disable the context sensitive menu extension from the Help menu."

Well, there IS no "context sensitive menu extension" in the Help menu.

Is there any reason to think that downloading version 2.0 will help this problem?

kkm

:(

You can disable the Contextual Menus extension in the Extension Manager or Conflict Catcher control panel, whichever you use, but you'll be giving up a very useful tool to overcome a bug in the Limewire program.

have the problems with running limewire in power mac g4's etc been resolved?
 

just wondering if the bugs happening with limewire running on g4's etc have been resolved.

i just got an adsl connection for the first time and finding limewire was a great thing for about the first 10 hours or so of use, when i started to have freezing and crashing problems like those described above.

it doesn't sound like any of the solutions proposed above are workable.

any other suggestions?

zig

A bug causing crashes like you described them has been fixed in version 2.4 ...

You didn't say what operating system you are running on your machine, but you might want to loosen up with a little cash and buy the pro version. I am running OS9 and it is running flawlessly on my machine (G4). It is well worth the pittance Lime Wire is charging.

The LimeWire 2.4.x versions do fix several potential conflicts that we found with the Mac 9.x and below version -- issues that we were previously unaware of. So the newest version should be more stable.

Yes, I've DLed LW2.4 and tried it out. NO MORE MEMORY EATING DISORDER!!!
Weldone, ppl! I love you all.

I'm running a G4/400 128MB RAM 10GB HD w/ OS9.1

Glad to hear it. We're actually getting better at this stuff over here (stuff being general software development), so you should some nice improvements in the future, including a bit better stability.

I bought the newest version and my G4 still freezes!
 

I followed the thread about system freeze ups with the G4's to try to trouble shoot the problem that I was having with this as well.

I finally decided it would be best to download the newest pay version, since someone suggested that this fixed the problem for them.

It worked great for about 4 hours, then froze, now it freezes the system nearly everytime I open up Limewire.

Please help! Limewire is a beautiful program and I want it to work. I now have a G4 and a DSL connection, and I still can't share mp3's. I'm depressed.

Are you running OS X or 9.x or below? Are there specific circumstances under which it freezes?

Thanks.

reply to afisk's questions
 

hi

i'm running OS 9.1 on a power mac G4 with a 533 processor and 256 megs ram.

and thanks for being so responsive!

zig

reply to afisk's questions
 

hi

oops, forgot my user name in the first reply

i'm running OS 9.1 on a power mac G4 with a 533 processor and 256 megs ram.

and thanks for being so responsive!

zig

No problem. The first thing I would recommend is to increase the memory devoted to LimeWire (in the Get Info window, I believe??). Try increasing it to 80MB or so.

Are you sharing a large number of files? About how many?

Memory allocation seems to solve the problem
 

Adam

i reloaded limewire and allocated over 80 megs of memory, and it has been opening and running well without crashes for about six hours now.

thanks adam, you're the limey-est!

zig

Glad to hear it. Let me know if it gives you any more problems.

guess i spoke a little too soon...
 

So, not long after i posted the triumphal news that i was now happily file-sharing on my G4 with 80+ megs of ram allocated to limewire the system crashed. Then it crashed on startup from there on in every time I tried it. I uninstalled and re-installed a couple of times and it still crashes on startup.

If this is working for other G4 users, maybe there is some bad voodoo going down in my system that i'm unable to deal with. However, everything else in the system works pretty much perfectly the rest of the time so I don't think this is it.

I don't know if this helps: even when I reload the program, on startup the last download that I was working on when the program last worked keeps coming back as if getting ready to resume downloading, and it seems to be just when this window opens up at the bottem of the application that the crash happens. I don't know, I'm getting superstitious about the whole thing now, so I really have no idea whether this has anything to do with it.

Anyway, I'm perplexed. Maybe limewire just isn't going to work in this system, as much as I'd like it to and as fond as I've become of that little spinning lime slice. Is it going to be possible to get limewire working with this type of system? If not, can anyone suggest a file sharing app that does work reliably with the power mac G4? I know this is an evil request, and I don't want to give up on limewire, but this is starting to get time consuming.

zig

I'm sorry to hear it seems to be crashing. The information about the file resuming is definitely interesting, however. Do you remember if it only started crashing once you had exited while there was a current download (so that LimeWire would automatically try to resume that download)?

Also, you should see a file called "downloads.dat" in your incomplete directory (/Applications/LimeWire/Incomplete by default). Can you possibly e-mail me that file at afisk@limepeer.com? I have a feeling that I will be able to reproduce the problem if you send me that, in which case we'll be able to fix it right away.

As far as other file sharing apps on OS X, I'm not familiar with any good ones. The only one that I have heard some good things about is Aqcuisition, at www.xlife.org . I believe it's programmed by a student, however, which isn't at all a bad thing -- it just means it's probably not the top priority. Give it a shot, though.

Using a G4 also with 1 gig of RAM, I find that the 9.2.2 OS performs much better than the one running on OS 10.1.4 on the same machine.
Is it the Java that makes it run so cr*ppy? Argh, it's awful! In a year and two months of various versions of OS 10 and LimeWire (free and Pro), the ONLY crash I have ever had was while LimeWire was running.
The app itself did not "unexpectedly quit", just everything but the pointer stopped working. Forcing a reboot was the only way out.
Wishlist:

Please fix or abandon Java

Please put the "browse host" feature back

On the Apple boards, I have read good things about Sputnix, but I think it's mainly for mp3 files.

It is given high praise for use with OS 10, because it is a Cocoa application, and contains

NO JAVA!!!!!!!

Decaffenated LimeWire, I suppose.

crash unexpectedly quit - type two
 

I just downloaded limewire pro and downloaded a couple of songs but ever since then it crashes after about 5 minutes of being in use. Nothing else is crashing- just limewire. Any ideas? I'm using a brand new g4 OS 9.22

thanks
Kate

Try increasing the memory allocated to LimeWire to about 80 MB in the "Get Info" window.

The main problem for Mac users appears to be the older Java implementation:

Windows / Linux : JRE 1.4
Mac OSX : JRE 1.3.1
Mac OS 8.x/9.x : MRJ 2.2.5 (=JRE 1.1.8)

this, for example means no mouse-wheel support or Cut & Paste for Mac Users which is supported in JRE 1.4, I believe.

As far as crashes are concerned. Apart from increasing the memory, as Adam suggested, you can try deactivating extensions (OS8/9) as these systems tend to suffer a lot of crashes from extension conflicts especially when you have a lot of 3rd party (non Apple) extensions. I often use the Basic OS option in the Extension Manager which only loads some of Apple's standard extensions and no 3rd party ones. That generally reduces the number of crashes. If that fails, you can try restarting with no extensions at all by holding down the shift key at startup (Limewire should still run).

I am using Mac G4 OS 9.1 128 MB
LimeWire seems to work better (not perfect) when I am running no other applications. NONE! Not only because of conflicts, but because of lack of memory. There are too many problems when running other applications with LimeWire. I don't know if this helps anyone, but that's what I've found. :)

crashing...
 

thanks everybody for your help...

it's hard not to have any other apps open though! too much to do - I did notice when I used control click to get outside the the program and start working on other projects... and I gave it more memory... it helped.

Still trying to run LimeWire Pro 2.4 in OS 10.1.4. Spontaneous combustion (app crashes), drags down rest of system if other apps are running, etc. Other users will relate. This is way too bad. I love this program, but it can be a R O Y A L pain unless you want to run nothing else and just share files. Unfortunately, I have to do other things with my computer as well. For the programmers, here is the latest crash log. I'm MORE than WILLING to help do whatever so you can get it right, but I think canning the Java and rebuilding is a good starting point. Sputnix was able to do that, and it's stable.

Well, if I could paste the log into this pane, I would do that. But it won't go. I'll try to email it to you guys.

My specs again: Mac OS 9.1 128MB 10GB hard drive LimeWire 2.4.3 (downloaded a couple of weeks ago)

I see that LW is now eating up 108+MB of my memory. I have it set to 64MB. My OS uses 40+MB. That's only leaving me with less than 8MB, making LW run (when it runs) very slow. I thought this problem was fixed in the 2.4.x versions. When I TRY to run LimeWire now, it won't even load the main search page sometimes. The frame of the window is there and the pop-up to "upgrade to pro" shows, but then blank. If I click where "File" is supposed to be, it will appear and I can quit the program. But it sure makes it difficult to search for anything ;)

Sometimes it will start up normally and after a few minutes it (computer) will start making noises (like it's working hard at something) and then if I click anywhere in LW such as to check connections or monitor and try to go back to search, the window will not reload. I can click on "File" (it will appear) and I can quit. But this sure is frustrating. I'm sorry to complain about something that I got for free, but if there is another fix out there that I'm not aware of... I did a search of the General Mac Support forums for "Eating Memory" and have read them and tried them all.

If Adam reads this, would it still be helpful to e-mail you my "err.txt" and "out.txt" files to review?

Thanks all.

The err.txt and out.txt files may be helpful. It sounds like you're just running out of memory, but there might be something else going on as well. My e-mail is afisk@limepeer.com .

Thanks!