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I can't open it.
I was able to reproduce this. The only thing that I changed for the Mac packaging was the Java version, so I switched back to 11 and now it works. I've updated the binary on the website, please download and try again.


I apologize about this, and about the "unidentified developer" warning. I really need to get my Apple developer membership sorted.


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Generally most of what you have allocated into the MacOS starter folder usually goes into the Resources folder
I will read up on the proper way of doing things and move them around. I will also read up on the PkgInfo file and see about creating one.


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There appears to be a lot of references to mail within the app
You're probably referring to the various ".crt" files inside MacOS/certificates. That is just a naming convention for the certificates that I2P uses to connect to the bootstrap servers (it's equivalent of GWebCaches).



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Does that mean the dev(s) are monitoring everyone's MW (and system)?
This is an important question, and the answer is no, BUT I am running a MuWire hostcache (aka GWebCache) which crawls the network, so if I wanted to I could build a graph of who is connected to who. Also, I run an update server to whom MW nodes report their current version, so I have an idea of who is running which version. Note that I don't see actual ip addresses, just the cryptographic identities.


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Any possibility of shifting to self-updating options in the future?
Certainly, once I get my Apple Developer membership sorted it can happen. There are some anonymity issues with that though; right now it's possible to download MW through I2P and I don't know the ip addresses of most MW users. If I start using Sparkle I will be able to see that, so it needs to be a very optional feature.


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One occasion I noticed after removing the files so I could rename them (the physical files)
I don't know how iTunes handles things, but it's important to mention that MW doesn't like when things change while they're shared. So if you need to rename, edit or delete a file you should un-share it from MW first.


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I thought for music it might be best to rename the file starting with the artist, album and song title in that order.
The comment system in MW exists exactly to alleviate the need for this. Any keywords you put in a comment will be searchable, so even if the file is named "song.flac", as long as it has the artist, album and song name in the comments others will be able to find it.
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I was able to reproduce this. The only thing that I changed for the Mac packaging was the Java version, so I switched back to 11 and now it works. I've updated the binary on the website, please download and try again.
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I don't know how iTunes handles things, but it's important to mention that MW doesn't like when things change while they're shared. So if you need to rename, edit or delete a file you should un-share it from MW first.
I did unshare the folder listing first. Perhaps if I unshared each of the files first it might have made a difference. Just seemed easier to unshare the folder instead of a dozen or more files.

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The comment system in MW exists exactly to alleviate the need for this. Any keywords you put in a comment will be searchable, so even if the file is named "song.flac", as long as it has the artist, album and song name in the comments others will be able to find it.
But is the comment system limited to only MW searches?

That inspires another question. What chances are there of my MW finding search results from other ip2 clients in other groupings/communities, etc. or vise versa? Example i2phex.

The Trust feature I find to be a difficult concept. How can I be certain a host is not a honey-pot investigator even if the files appear to be fine?
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But is the comment system limited to only MW searches?

Yes, the comment system as well as everything shared on MW is only visible to MW.



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That inspires another question. What chances are there of my MW finding search results from other ip2 clients in other groupings/communities, etc. or vise versa? Example i2phex.
Interesting idea but I doubt it will happen. I2Phex specifically hasn't seen any development activity in years as far as I know. If there appears a well-documented platform that I can integrate with, then I will certainly consider doing that.



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The Trust feature I find to be a difficult concept. How can I be certain a host is not a honey-pot investigator even if the files appear to be fine?
Well that's generally a problem with every trust system. The best advice I can give is to take more things into account than just whether the files are genuine - for example what the user shares (can check via "Browse Host") and what the user searches for (can set up a ".*" regex rule in the Content Control Panel). Of course out-of-MW communication with the user in question is always a good idea. But neither of these is a silver bullet.
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I apologize about this, and about the "unidentified developer" warning. I really need to get my Apple developer membership sorted.

Sorting the apple developer certificate was easier than expected So now the bundle on the site is signed and no longer shows the warning. I will work on making it a .dmg eventually.
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0.5.6 is out. Notable features:
* When there is an update available, a message window with description of the update will popup
I've yet to see an update message. Unless I closed the message without thinking. But I have restarted the app over the past day. Edit: Another restart and no update message. I do wonder if this issue is osx specific. I've been uploading the 0.5.7 update parts so perhaps those on linux & windows have been receiving the update messages. I'm still on 0.5.6

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The comment system in MW exists exactly to alleviate the need for this. Any keywords you put in a comment will be searchable, so even if the file is named "song.flac", as long as it has the artist, album and song name in the comments others will be able to find it.
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’The sidecar files themselves are not shared, …’
But doesn’t this mean that potentially people (downloaders) will be sharing "song.flac" without support information and thus a little meaningless? People would need to guess what song of the same title and artist, etc. That is not only if they choose to share what they download but also to a smaller extent for themselves to recall what details existed if the file's ID tags were not particularly inclusive. I've previously seen poorly (or barely or non-existent) tagged files across networks and it can be annoying.

I guess that does bring in the Trust factor concept about the accuracy of sidecar files. But once in a while a person might also make an honest mistake.

Any possibility of adding interactivity with the uploads window?
Things like right-clicking with options such as view file information, find in library, find on disk, etc. This is particularly relevent if a shared file is simply "song.flac" and your library has multiple files of same song but different versions (such as live/studio/rehearsal, jam, etc.)

Probably due to the way uploads are listed via Java, the uploads listings are difficult to select for more than a second or two.
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I've yet to see an update message. Unless I closed the message without thinking. But I have restarted the app over the past day. Edit: Another restart and no update message. I do wonder if this issue is osx specific. I've been uploading the 0.5.7 update parts so perhaps those on linux & windows have been receiving the update messages. I'm still on 0.5.6

That puzzles me, 0.5.6 should download a mac-specific update file called "MuWire-mac-0.5.7.zip". Can you open the file ~/Library/Application Support/MuWire/MuWire.properties and tell me what the "updateType" property says?


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But doesn’t this mean that potentially people (downloaders) will be sharing "song.flac" without support information and thus a little meaningless? People would need to guess what song of the same title and artist, etc. That is not only if they choose to share what they download but also to a smaller extent for themselves to recall what details existed if the file's ID tags were not particularly inclusive. I've previously seen poorly (or barely or non-existent) tagged files across networks and it can be annoying.

What you describe is a big issue and I don' t know if a perfect solution exists. Comments in MW only "travel one hop". But I'm working on a new feature which will help when people rename the files they download, amongst other things. More details here https://github.com/zlatinb/muwire/wi...e-Certificates


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Any possibility of adding interactivity with the uploads window?
Things like right-clicking with options such as view file information, find in library, find on disk, etc. This is particularly relevent if a shared file is simply "song.flac" and your library has multiple files of same song but different versions (such as live/studio/rehearsal, jam, etc.)

Probably due to the way uploads are listed via Java, the uploads listings are difficult to select for more than a second or two.

I'll look into it. The selection thing is fixable for sure, I just never thought the uploads window would need to be interactive so didn't bother to preserve the selection across updates.
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That puzzles me, 0.5.6 should download a mac-specific update file called "MuWire-mac-0.5.7.zip". Can you open the file ~/Library/Application Support/MuWire/MuWire.properties and tell me what the "updateType" property says?
updateType=jar

I had thought the download updates issue had stopped. But I noticed I downloaded two 0.5.7's and 0.5.6 was in that attempting to download with unknown eta status.
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Can you stop MuWire, change the value of the updateType property to "mac" (without the ") and start MuWire again? About a minute after startup it will query the update server and should start downloading the right update package.
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First time I've seen a macupdate in the downloads window. But looks like it will be some time before I get it. I presume I receive a popup message after completion.

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Appears to have finished downloading. But no notifications. Or do I need to restart?
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