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Old February 4th, 2013
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I'm brand new to this site but I'm already signed up with vuze... How do I use vuze on this site? I don't have anything to share yet. Files empty

I have vuze but don't know how to use it... And I don't even know we're to start??? Do you just post " hey I want porn lmao"?

Will someone please help me... I don't know what the **** is going on or how to do it... I just wanna learn how to send and receive a few simple pornos with out going to prison
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How do I trade porn?
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Try using your browser's search engine and put the word torrent at the end of what you are searching for. You should be able to get some results for your search topic. Download the torrent file and open them with Vuse. Some torrent sites now use magnet links which Vuse can open directly with. However in my experience, magnet links seem much less reliable and occasionally fail whereas the alternative torrent file did not. (I've probably had around a 50% failure rate with magnet links whilst using Vuse.)

There are also some popular torrent sites that have torrents listed into media type categories and topics, and also have search abilities for your topic.

How to get started with Vuse is maybe a question Sleepless would be better at answering.

(I moved and merged your first 3 posts, since they were similar questions but a couple were in the wrong forum section.)
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But after I get it down loaded in vuze how would I share with someone on this site? Is it done in one of these forums? And the seeds thing.... I'm lost! Thanx again
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TINFOUR,

You'll find many of the answers you seek here: Beginner's Guide | mOOter's BitTorrent Guide

You can skip the part about Static IP (though it is worth looking into once you get used to using torrents).
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While I'm sure your intentions are in the right place here, you should surely take into account what else small piece sizes do to big torrents. First off the torrent file will be huge. Second, while yes if you are interrupted while downloading a piece you will most likely lose that data, lets do a little math having e.g.

A 8.53GB torrent. In my case I lost 55.18MB while downloading it. It was piece size of 2MB = 4366 pieces. Protocol on a bigger piece torrent will generally use around 0.3% (messages back and forth between clients, which depend on a lot of things) approx. 26.2MB

You want 512KB pieces i.e. 17464 pieces. Well that means 4 times as many messages. So 26.2MB x 4 = 104.8MB so 78.6MB more than with 2MB piece size.

Now let's go back to the beginning where I said I lost 55.18MB. Let's say you lose 4 times less with 512KB pieces, so 13.8MB.

512KB pieces = 104.8MB + 13.8MB = 118.6MB waste
2MB pieces = 26.2MB + 55.18MB = 81.4MB waste

IMHO the uploader should have made the torrent 4MB pieces as around 2000 pieces works quite well when minimizing wasted data. But you probably use some bad client like Limewire, so you can't see all the overhead used on small sizes.
Coincidentally just today I noticed two torrents with similar issue, same title but one was DVD-DL (7.5 GB), the other BD (24.74 GB). This is a more extreme example. The DVD-DL torrent used 256 KB pieces. The overhead was an astounding 10-12 KB/s lost to messaging overhead.
Whereas the BD torrent used 4 MB pieces, barely any noticeable overhead at all. I guess divide the 10-12 KB/s by 16 to get the overhead of the BD torrent. I decided to kill seeding the DVD due to so much overhead bandwidth thrown away for nothing. I am instead seeding the BD version. My public torrent ratio is 1.5 and private torrents over double that so hopefully I'm excused. (There are several other same content DVD torrents anyway.)

BD (24.74 GB), 4 MB pieces: overhead not noticeable; negligible. . (5,901 pieces) . (About 0.02 GB extra download.)

DVD-DL (7.5 GB), 256 KB pieces: overhead 10-12 KB/s. . ( approximately 30,000 pieces) . (stats of extra download not available since I killed it. But no doubt, extra waste-age on top of this for both seeders and leechers is a phenomenal amount. ie: 36-42 MB per hour wasted in overhead for the seeder alone. 10 hours seeding this was enough for me. This particular torrent represents very high inefficiency.)



Another point in mind about public torrents is that you may get all kinds of torrent programs and versions (some very old) and their bad data transfers can be high. This is something you do not normally see at private torrent sites where the sites are often strict on which torrent programs and which versions are allowed to use their trackers (for many reasons.) I know Vuse has an auto-banning function for clients that send more than a certain amount of bad data. This can be customized.
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