Well I stuck in the Java. I'm pretty sure I had it in the first place. The download didn't appear with a save box so I couldn't tell if it went in or not but I got the Java icon in the tray so I'm pretty sure it's in. Java has always been a mystery to me an I am not any more enlightened.
However I did get the file in question after it installed so a victory of sorts. I got it from a cable connection, the T3 ones were still corrupted so beware the fast connections seems to be the message here.
Thanks for all your help.

Regards,

Renoman