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Old February 8th, 2006
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Unhappy no way - limewire 4.10.5 crashes as well

After LIMEWIRE version 4.8, the most stabile, all other versions I always have the same problem. Now I have 4.10.5 installed (Portuguese), using win2k, 328ram, pentium III 600, and with 4 -5 downloads running. Suddenly, the program crashes and disappear, no error message, no dr. watson, nothing.
The only way is to restart the computer.

Any ideas?
thanks
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Can you give us a total desciption of your set up:
1. OS version? (eg: Windows 98)
2. What firewalls you have?
3. How much ram?
4. Hard Disk space available?
5. Connection type? (eg: dialup, broadband, cable, etc.)
6. Modem & router brand name & model numbers?
7. Where are you trying to connect from (home, school, work, etc.)?
8. What version of Limewire (LW) & Java do you have? (Go to LW's menu Help>About LW...) Will show both LW & Java version.
9. Who is your isp provider (Internet Service Provider)?
10. Are you sharing the connection with other computers or p2p sharing programs? If yes, please give details of set up.
11. Are your number of shared files over 500 or over 1,000?
12. Are your number of incomplete files over 1,000?
13. When you open LW, do you use the Resume/Find Sources function on all your files at the same time?
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Originally posted by Lord of the Rings
Can you give us a total desciption of your set up:
1. OS version? (eg: Windows 98)
2. What firewalls you have?
3. How much ram?
4. Hard Disk space available?
5. Connection type? (eg: dialup, broadband, cable, etc.)
6. Modem & router brand name & model numbers?
7. Where are you trying to connect from (home, school, work, etc.)?
8. What version of Limewire (LW) & Java do you have? (Go to LW's menu Help>About LW...) Will show both LW & Java version.
9. Who is your isp provider (Internet Service Provider)?
10. Are you sharing the connection with other computers or p2p sharing programs? If yes, please give details of set up.
11. Are your number of shared files over 500 or over 1,000?
12. Are your number of incomplete files over 1,000?
13. When you open LW, do you use the Resume/Find Sources function on all your files at the same time?
1. W2k SP2
2. Zone Alarm free version
3. 392MB PC133 (pIII 700 - mobo Asus P3V133)
4. A LOT (2 HD = 1 with 40 and other with 80 GB partitioned = 8 partitions 20~40GB each, none of them with more as 50% full.)
5. ADSL - ppp 128kbps with speedtouch modem (lan)
6. speedtouch 510
7. home
8. lw 4.10.5 / java 1.5.0_02
9. terra.com.br (telefonica)
10. no
11. over 500
12. only 12
13 sometimes yes. but last time I didn't anything, and went go lunch. When I come back, no limewire was open. no option selected like close after downloads, and not minimized, only normal window.
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Off-hand, I can't particularly see anything wrong with your set up. But I would recommend updating your Java to the latest 1.5 version (update 6): Java 1.5 (take the JRE) & get the "Offline" version installer.

I do know that some LW versions run well some some people's systems & the next version doesn't. This seems to often been the case over the past couple of years at least.

If LW 4.10.5 isn't working well, then try 4.10.7 or beta to see if there's any improvement.

As a side comment about your set up, 392 MB ram is not a lot. It might be worth seeing if you can pick up some cheap ram at the local market or something. Particularly since 133 ram has been outdated for a little while now. The price should be on the cheaper side now. See what bargains you can get.

Since you're using more than one HDD for p2p, it'd be well worth doing a frequent check for fragmentation & defragging them if they start to get bad. On win 2k this can make a big difference to performance.
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Off-hand, I can't particularly see anything wrong with your set up. But I would recommend updating your Java to the latest 1.5 version (update 6): Java 1.5 (take the JRE) & get the "Offline" version installer.
Mr. Lord of Rings, I will do what you recommend. First java upgrade and if this doesn't solve the issue, beta upgrade.

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As a side comment about your set up, 392 MB ram is not a lot. It might be worth seeing if you can pick up some cheap ram at the local market or something. Particularly since 133 ram has been outdated for a little while now. The price should be on the cheaper side now. See what bargains you can get.

Since you're using more than one HDD for p2p, it'd be well worth doing a frequent check for fragmentation & defragging them if they start to get bad. On win 2k this can make a big difference to performance.
You are right. Here in Brasil, with cheap dollar (=R$ 2,20), ram is easy to find and buy. Maybe 512 will be a good value.

About defrag, I'm doing it regullary (every 2 months). In win2k it's a little annoying, because I must defragment partition after partition (or install o&o or other good defragment software).

thanks for your help, and after new tests I will post results in this forum.

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Default Sort of the same problems here

After the update from, I believe 4.8 to 4.10 Limewire just vanishes without warning. The icon remaines in the system tray, but as usual, when you put your mouse-pointer over it that disappeares also.
Limewire starts up, loads the old downloads (about 5 at the moment), stays up for 5, 10 or maybe sometimes even 30 sec's and then boom, gone.
These 5 downloads mentioned are the only ones in my "incomplete" dir because I deleted all my incomplete files to see if that would help. Get rid of any junk. Just in case so to speak.

I installed JRE1.5 I de-installed it to install 1.4. I de-installed limewire and installed an older version. De-installed that again when that turned out to give the same problem.
I followed the anti-virus thread and looked for any virusses. None there.
I defragged my hard-drives.
I deleted the .limewire preset dir. I de-installed java and limewire again and like in every step mentioned before of course I cleaned the registry with regedit.
I restored the Limewire default settings a few times.
Installed the betaversion.
Nothing works.
5-30 sec's of connection each time.

I have a AMD Athlon 2600
80gig, 40gig, 30gig (USB ext).
1Gig Ram.
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Try step 3 here Fixes for Limewire

When or if re-installing Java or LW, it's safest to use the "Offline" versions; ie: not installing over the net.

It might sound like a pain, but try uninstalling Java again using add/remove control panel & reinstalling, deleting LW preferences folder, then reinstalling LW.

Before you do this, it might be worth running this utility over your system Crap Cleaner as it will help to clean your registry.
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Try step 3 here Fixes for Limewire

When or if re-installing Java or LW, it's safest to use the "Offline" versions; ie: not installing over the net.

It might sound like a pain, but try uninstalling Java again using add/remove control panel & reinstalling, deleting LW preferences folder, then reinstalling LW.

Before you do this, it might be worth running this utility over your system Crap Cleaner as it will help to clean your registry.
OK I did all this.
First of all I uninstalled limewire and immediately after that I de-installed Java.
Then I downloaded CCleaner and installed and ran that.
Right after that I ran Fix-it utilities' regcleaner which found some more invalid entries.

After this I did a file-find on everything contaning "Limewire". I founs a lot and deleted every file and dir concerning Limewire.

Did a reboot and CCleaner again. Just some minor entries removed, which was obvious.

Finally I re-installed Java JRE1.5 and Limewire, both in off-line setup. (I have them downloaded in my "installs" dir).

Limewire takes a lot of time to connect for a search but the downloads have already started. Meaning I can download but cannot search because there' is no connection????????
Limewire vanishes ahter about 20min or so, exactly like before but later.

I do not think this is a pain and even if I were, it would be nice to solve this prob. and the only way to do that is keeping up the spirit and go on!

I'm happy to be able to talk to you about this because there is a lot to learn from this even if you're a newbie (which to a certain amount I am).
Thanks for that!

BTW. I forgot to mention earlier:
The port on which Limewire "listens" changes with each new install. Right now it's on 4151 but it has been on 4636 or so and even on 1028 etc. Wierd.
And another thing is that after the crashes Limewire often started up with the "finish installation" series, where you could have your drive scanned etc.
Also the installed language is "Dutch". Which I never choose to use even though I am Dutch. All sorts of "crazy"
appearances.

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Back to 10 sec's up and woosh gone.

What next?
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I have the same problem.

Win XP Pro SP2
AMD 3800 X2
1.5GB PC3200
2X100GB Western Digital HD
NVidia 6600LE 256MB
DSL

I totally reformated my main drive, installed Java 1.5 (pain in the butt install which leads me to think this is all a Java issue), then Installed LW.

After 2 mins of Downloading ( after waiting for the download to start) it totally locks the system and you have to hard reboot.

No idea why.

Clues anyone??
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