The program installs correctly. It just automatically shuts down as soon as the GUI is fully displayed.

Also let it be noted that this problem only occurs on my systems if you choose NOT to install the extra adware/spyware programs included. Just not worth it.

Dear Mr. 'afisk' (or other "LimeWire" developers)

I checked "www.gator.com" and their software supposedly comes with a de-installer, but "LimeWire" didn't provide it.

So, please, tell me, even after I de-install "LimeWire", how to de-install these unwanted add-ons, companions and spy-ware.

You could at least provide instructions!

Mine will run (1.8c) but only until i make one download, then it crashes. The ad window is visible but everything else turns gray.

I run a WinME box.

Ditto with Windows NT SP6

program closes like everyone else when Gator and Text thing not installed with LimeWire.

Works OK when Gator and other junkware installed.

Poor Form!

Windows NT

LimeWare minus Gator & Top Text on install
==> LimeWire crashes as described in many posts

LimeWire plus Gator & Top Text
==> LimeWire works but have spyware loaded
LimeWire still works after unintalling Gator & Top Text but
OfferCompanion (a la Gator) is installed on reboot. LimeWire
continues to work after OfferCompanion is removed.

You hinted at the possiblity of a paid version of limewire, let me give you a few tips.....

Most people IMHO would be prepared to pay a small membership fee for the privilage of getting limewire without spy/adware.

As an added incentive members would be able to list there various interests, thereby getting access to the community tab in the program (which at the moment doesn't seem to have any use) making it easier for them to reach other users who might have the type of files they would be interested in.

IMHO the benefits would encourage most people to hand over a couple of dollars but then we get to my second point - DOLLARS!

This may surprise many American's but the whole world does not use dollars and more importantly the whole would does not have easy access to either a VISA or AMERICAN EXPRESS card.

Several times I have downloaded a program, used it, liked it, attempted to either purchase it or register it - only to be asked for one of the two above cards. For me this would require either changing bank so that I can get a VISA debit card on my current account OR attempting to blag my self a CREDIT CARD despite having a very poor credit rating. So my second tip is to strike a deal with an international websales company (Amazon springs to mind) for resales since these have different versions of there site in different countries. As an example I can use my SWITCH card with Amazon, by kid brother (he's only 15) can use his ELECTRON card, neither of these cards are normally recognised by American based sites. IF WE CANT BUY IT USING THE PAYMENT METHODS WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US - WE WILL SIMPLY PIRATE IT

So in short make it cheap, make it easy for us to pay AND WE WILL PAY FOR IT

Make it expensive and difficult to obtain outside of the U.S. and watch us PIRATE IT

Vonotar

If the installer gives a user the option to not to install Gator and TopText then Limeware should not crash when a user installs this configuration. From a business perspective, if spy-ware is required to support your development model, then don't give people the option not to install it. You just succeed in frustrating everyone who innocently chooses that option. And judging from the posts - there is no hotter issue for you to resolve. I recommend that you put a link on your homepage to a page that explains these limitations immediately.

Any installer crashes in any situation are definitely not our intention. We all seriously have to chill out on the conspiracy theories here.

There is likely something wrong with the installer here, as we know the Windows installer has some issues (most of which have to do with the extremely buggy latest version of InstallShield). I will look into this particular problem and try to come up with a solution.

For those who got this problem, you were definitely using the 1.8c installer?

As far as the international payment idea goes, that is definitely a good idea. Americans frequently forget that the rest of the world exists, admittedly. The issue will be more a matter of having the human resources to set it up, so you may have to resort to the "piracy" route for now. We really don't care so much about this (remember that with a little technical knowledge it's simple to get any version of LimeWire you want -- we're open source!!).

Vonotar, any interest in doing a translation of LimeWire? It's just a matter of translating a text file, so you don't need to know any programming.

So far my experience with Limewire 1.8c on Y2K have been rather disappointing. Actually, disappointing is too high of a grade.

I also saw that afixk was looking for suggestions on development. Developer to developer, why don't you try testing your work before you post it on web for distribution.

afisk,

when lw1.8c crashes on my w2k, I get an error message in the lw dir reading something like:

An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM. Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION occurred at PC=0x0
Function name=(N/A)
Library=(N/A)

suppose that won't help

best regards
claus