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Unregistered May 13th, 2002 08:16 PM

Morgwen Bias?
 
Quote Morgwen:

"I have no problem with the software itself, my problems are the third party stuff and Vinnie, but my problem with him is personal!"

http://zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=246

Morgwen May 14th, 2002 12:41 AM

Re: As Usual
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vinnie
As usual, Morgwen has decided to use Gnutella as a platform to launch his own agenda (getting attention mainly).[/URL]
I didnīt start this thread! :rolleyes:

Morgwen

Morgwen May 14th, 2002 01:28 AM

Re: Morgwen Bias?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Quote Morgwen:

"I have no problem with the software itself, my problems are the third party stuff and Vinnie, but my problem with him is personal!"

http://zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=246

You discovered a BIG secret, please donīt tell this anybody! ;)

Morgwen

Unregistered May 14th, 2002 01:41 AM

I wonder who has no problems with Vinnie's behaviour, not a suprise.

see first post again, Vinnie said that and I call it badmouthing.
it doesnt matter what "I only did a comparision" excuses he gives now.

Morgwen May 14th, 2002 01:45 AM

Re: Re: More to learn
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Truth Hurts
The sad part is the misleading posts by Morgwen's do not end there, just today he has stated the below lies about BearShare?

He has stated that BearShare has closed their host cache to other gnutella clients. He has stated they block Xolox.

I stated today that bearshare blocks Xolox??? I posted a link to this a thread where Vinnie said that public.bearsahre.net refuses non bearsahre clients!

Tell the facts!

Quote:

A serious question is what has Morgwen contributed to the development of Gnutella?
A serious anwser, the most mods are not posting in the GDF (including me)! So now I am bad because I donīt post there or what? What do you know about my support behind the scenes?

Quote:

I have only seen this kid post misleading comments and lies regarding BearShare and LimeWire.
Lies about bearshare and Limewire? :confused:

Yes of course you disagree... but some "lies" about Limewire were the truth they helped the developers of Limewire a lot! I wonder why Adam Fisk is answering my PMs if I am such an a*****??? The same about bearsahre, post some of my LIES please, so the user can decide who is the liar here!


Quote:

What I have to ask, if he is suppose to be a bias helper to the Gnutelliums forum, why is he posting such negative comments about good community based clients?
Ah yes I post negative comments about good based community clients? I post negatice comments about the SPYWARE!!!

Morgwen

P.S.:

I think you are RoyWilson a VIP from bearshare.net, why do you hide?

VinniesCodeSux May 14th, 2002 02:17 AM

Vinnie, your code sux.
We know it does because you never let anyone look at it. Closed source is so easy because you don't have to worry about anyone looking it over, so be as sloppy as you like, as long as the "front" looks good and the user nevers sees the crap.
Then you sit there thinking all day long on how you can disadvantage other clients and gain more market share. The BearShare BlackHole is a good example of how you sneek in code that screwes up other clients. You knew this would happen, but you went ahead and did it anyway.
You won't take out the spy packets even though you don't need them for the purpose you told everyone they are for (update check for new versions), so now we all know they do more than just that.
You have been talking about how 3.0 is going to be so great, but now Gnucleus is way better than your planned 3.0 and this upsets you. GOOD !
You need to leave Gnutella. Make 3.0 your version that creates this BearShare Network you have always talked about and leave us alone.

Moak May 14th, 2002 07:01 AM

I'm not sure if Bearshare code sux, but the constant badmouting and unfriendly behaviour sux definitely. The best cure for Gnutella would Bearshare leaving and make their own proprietary network IMHO, I explained this in two posts (1, 2).

Unregistered333 May 16th, 2002 06:12 PM

hah, bearshare, that program worked for about a week, until the first rewrite, so I dunno what they're talking about. Seriously, this isn't even a programmer's perspective, but gnucleus has always been the best working and simplest to use. Only problem now is that darned "more hosts needed" thing. If I didn't know better I'd think somebody did this on purpose, but it's probably just paranoia ;)

Unregistered May 19th, 2002 01:30 AM

Re: Re: More to learn
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Truth Hurts
A serious question is what has Morgwen contributed to the development of Gnutella? I have never seen a post from him in the_gdf, I have never seen a proposal, nothing constructive. I have only seen this kid post misleading comments and lies regarding BearShare and LimeWire.

What I have to ask, if he is suppose to be a bias helper to the Gnutelliums forum, why is he posting such negative comments about good community based clients?

I can't believe someone posted anything like that. Try looking at some past threads in this forum. You will find that Morgwen has done a tremendous amount to boost Gnutella by helping users to get their clients up and running correctly, as well as promoting the ideals of community and sharing on the Gnet. And which client has he provided the most support for overall? Yep, that's right - Bearshare! He asked some innocent questions about Bearshare over at bearshare.net and got his a*s flamed in response by the chief bear in residence.

The "chief bear" has regularly flamed critics for well over a year now. Morgwen is hardly the first to be alienated by this misbehavior, there have many others. The troubling thing is that somebody as pro-Bearshare as Morgwen was turned against it. FreePeers has become a threat to the Gnutella community and needs to be stopped in its tracks, in my opinion at least.

Unregistered May 19th, 2002 02:39 AM

Re: As Usual
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vinnie
As usual, Morgwen has decided to use Gnutella as a platform to launch his own agenda (getting attention mainly).

More intelligent forum users who are interested in forming their own opinion can read my analysis of Gnucleus code base, which is meant more as an information source rather than a condemnation or criticism.

These comments from me came about as a reaction to remarks regarding comparisons of BearShare versus Gnucleus, so I felt it was appropriate to reply.

The comments:
http://www.bearshare.net/forum/showt...7551#post97551

Put your money where your mouth is! Show us the code!


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