Thanks for the info Adam, and appreciation once again to all the coders.

the beta finally showed--even though Safari requires the bookmarked page to be refreshed. Still don't understand the delay between the updating of the signed version in the cvs@gui.limewire.org and its appearance on the bookmarked beta Pro page.

The LW installer is still overwriting an active LW. I had dl'd and installed jum 221 earlier (it asked for the language and correctly refused to overwrite the LW 3.6.3 beta which was running. The 3.6.4 beta did not ask for the language, and went ahead and overwrote the running jum 221.

Magnets often require a number of clicks from the browser to get them working in LW. (I checked with the jum magnet and the Magnet mix ones). btw--Aubrey's cat porn is most popular

Could the Ethernet transfers be exempt from the upload slider? I've limited uploads to 90KB/s, but want that to apply to 'extranet' bandwidth (word?), not intranet transfers over ethernet. Instead of the 800KB/s I've seen in the past, the transfers were slowed to a ~50KB/s between my G3 and G4. Too, the server side showed a single upload, but the client side showed the file swarming from the 192.*.*.1 (gateway) and the local IP of LW on the G4.

Re the discussion of the need for PRO sales--sounds like it's needed if hiring business managers over coders is necessary, which also risks the opensource relationships which keeps at least some of us loyal. If open source is still the future of LW then a specialized GUI "sexy" coder who can overcome the problem of open source apps being primarily by coders for coders might make LW more attractive to end users (great introduction to opensource development in Wired . I can't get my kids to use LW or the jums--they 'like' Acquisition and Poison. I prefer LW for the education it provides on the way filesharing works, and the fact it is the most progressive and technically impressive networking p2p app and developer team I've seen.

Lastly--thanks for the attention given to OSX issues. LW has for me at least tapped into Apple loyalty.