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Old January 12th, 2002
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Cable/DSL users are ultrapeers its not just T1+ connections.

VTOLfreak: If you would of understood what I was saying when I was said "Most of the time they're "firewalled" users with the private addresses", you wouldnt of made the comment about you can download from firewalled hosts. If you noticed that when you do a search and get results back PRIVATE ADDRESSES are the only addresses that show in red. Because PRIVATE ADDRESSES are not in the public domain (the internet). Meaning, that machine is sitting on some network that the outside world cant see (common sense will tell you, its behind NAT'd/router/firewall machine ) but it still has an outside connection b/c of course its connecting to the gnutella network. Well anyways in all, it means those hosts do not have port forwarding on their gateway or have any idea what their public address (the force ip thing). Even though I have forced my IP, I dont show up in red when people look at their results from me. The PRIVATE ADDRESSES are where PUSH REQUESTS come into play. B/c the push request has to travel back to the host that PRIVATE ADDRESS HOST is connected to and that host could be the max total of 7 hops away. So between you and the PA host that message may get dropped (I'm just explaing push requests as I'm on the subject). Anwyays I wasnt saying you couldnt download from NAT'd hosts. Most people call it "firewalled" hosts aka the private addresses that show up in red in the results. So thats why I clearly said, "firewalled" hosts with private addresses. But truly, I've had a grouped result with 15 sources and all of them were coming from private addresses and that was what I was trying to explain.
 


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