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Old October 13th, 2006
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Default Usless hosts, garbage files, etc.

Ok, I'm not exactly sure where to post this thread in the LimeWire section of the Gnutella forum... so I will do so right here. Mod's and Admin's are free to move the thread wherever they see fit.

Anyhow, some basic information about my experience here. I've been connecting to LimeWire for about 2 years now. I have version 4.10.3 and have not installed the new 4.12.6 of which I did the search for while connected.. but I will do so soon. I have about 200 files shared, even though my entire collection is well over 3 thousand files, mainly .mp3's.

I have about 2,000 ebooks waiting in the Que for download. most are over 1,000K/b and nothing bigger than 60MB (59,950K/b). I'm connecting to my ISP @ 48K/bps. I have it set to download 6 at a time, while some download at 1K or 0K.. others at 2K, and with all 6 going I have about 6 or 7K.. and sometimes I have gotten quick bursts of 10-15K. 4 out of the 6 run, on average, at good enough speed so I sometimes shorten it to 4 at a time.

While searching I get all these odd results that really do nothing more than take up room in the listing. For instance the ones that say something like "Can you afford.." and some that end with (sponsored result) and also some other wierd ones like Windows Media results (I think they're video files) like "cute funny brown dog playing...", etc. etc. etc.. They're the same ones that always come up no matter what search string you use. I really would wish that they would go away.

I have not been able to discern which specific set IP #'s they originate from in order to exclude them from searches.. and it appears that they come from a bunch of different sets of IP #'s.

Here are two of the ones that I was able to find: 38.99.*.* and 64.72.*.* and 216.255.*.*

Anyone know any of the others? I'd like some help weeding out a majority of these useless hosts. Maybe it could become a sticky.

I did change some of the settings though, as mentioned in the forum here and have gotten a bit better experience. I filtered the 192.168.*.* hosts and the 10.*.*.* hosts

Anyhow, I'd like some advice on what else to do here to elmiinate the junk.

Oh, and one last thing, this is abit off this topic. While in the Monitor view, I see people connecting through "CruX 3.2.0.0". What client is this?

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Spam is everywhere. Try adding words like sponsored, iPod, afford, buylegal etc to your keyword filter (tools > options > filters > keywords). Depending what you're looking for, you could add .mov & any other extensions you don't want to see. wma/wmv files are probably good ones to filter out too, unless you're specifically looking for those file types
What you should know about wma files

You can find more advice about filtering out spam/junk in the threads below, or use the forum search to find more info!!!
Words to add to keyword filter
Junk Filter

Be aware that blocking IP addresses is fine as long as the spammer is using that particular IP. Then, a couple of days later, someone else may adopt that IP address & you end up blocking an innocent sharer.

Here's some info about CruX, Google is always handy for finding out this kind of info.

http://www.cruxp2p.com/
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Well, thanks for the information. I'll get right to adding these to the "Keywords" section of the Filters.

I generally enjoy my Gnutella experience on LimeWire.. although I also share on eMule.

Sometimes I would do an audio search for a particular song, album, artist, etc. and get a thousand or more results as I was used to seeing a couple hundred or less.. it just fustrated me.

Since I'm on dialup (56k Modem) on a free ISP.. and I have a decent modem, and one of those spiffy internet modem cables (rather than use regular RJ11 phone cable) and well I was hoping adding a DSL filter would help cut down on line noise too.

I really hate those MP3 results that pop open a browser window!

My last pet peve on P2P is that people have very poor ID3 tag information on their MP3 files. This is why I use MediaMonkey and systematically erase all the ID3 info from every file I download.. and replace it with information found in one of the many popular databases out there. This is after which I have scanned the incoming for viruses. I have not had very good luck with AlbumArt though. I just wish more people did the same!

I also don't understand the .m4a results I seen once in a blue moon.

I guess I still need to work on the optimization of my connection and sharing speeds.

Greg
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Sometimes I would do an audio search for a particular song, album, artist, etc. and get a thousand or more results as I was used to seeing a couple hundred or less..
Spammed fake files, see more about it here Recognising fake files

When you see that many files in a search result (several thousand) then you can guess most will be fake. So try downlding those with just a few sources, & also those with Modem connections can be trusted here. For videos, don't forget to check user feedback using Bitzi.

LW 4.12.6 will stop those sponsored results, but now you need to worry about fakes. You'll know they're fakes because they attempt to connect for ages before giving up.
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Old October 14th, 2006
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I've been doing some reading this evening in the thread mentioned, while watching my downloads move along at their own pace. Interesting reading.

After doing the things already mentioned, things have improved just in the past few hours.

I'm not sure how accruate my connection speeds are, as well as the true UL & DL speeds are. I'm not very far from my free local ISP. It's based in my area. 99.9% of the time I connect at 48 Kbps, but sometimes I can connect @ 49.2Kbps. The ISP has several local access #'s, and the same happens no matter which I used.

I figured a lot of the results would be junk, but then again I also am growing tired of the trash can in the quality column of the results. Could I improve this by retraining Limewire, and having it forget all the data it aquired?

Are there any tips for modem users? I'd like to see speeds better than 5-7KB/s (shown next to the green down arrow).

Would it be advantageous of me to share my whole collection, rather than the group of 200 finished files that I have? I have heard that the more you share the more people like to give up bandwidth, slots, etc.

Blitzi has been a help but I generally look for files with a vommon range of file size in a particular group and then restart a new search with the results I find to help narrow it down, with the advanced search options. I'm more apt to also download files of common bit rate.

I have seen the odd .pdf file with a bitrate too. I assumed this to be a junk file.

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"dialup (56k Modem)" has a maximum speed of about 7 KB/s if you're lucky. If you want faster speeds then upgrade to broadband/cable, etc.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. I just wanted to confirm my thoughts. I'm still curious as to why I'm getting short bursts of faster speeds than that.

Other than that there are still a few things I can't eliminate as far as the junk goes.

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