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Old December 27th, 2006
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People who has LimeWire (limewire should not be recommended by dial-up) should have a uploading at least enough for other users to download as fast. Or else, it will probably take a lot more hours to download from LimeWire then off your browser.

What I mean is that LimeWire Free version should at least have 28.44kb upload, so many peers can download as fast, I mean, people always lower their upload ,then other peers who just downloaded won't get as fast as of your browser.
And this will seem to help the LimeWire Pro Sales, if they don't want the upload rule (somewhere 28.44kb).

I'm sorry but lowering the upload option, isn't good for faster peer sharing and people will just quit limewire for slow downloads such as something 700mb, slow, but when this option changes, people with T1 can let users download faster, (or at least people who already downloaded the file completed.

I'm sorry if this was already requestion, but adding this would be
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Freeloaders aren't dial-up users. Freeloaders are people who don't share their files. People with dial-up connections have just as much right to use LW as people with faster connections.

People with a modem connection are sometimes more reliable sources than those with the faster connections.

If you don't want to download from people with a slow connection, then don't...nobody's forcing you to.
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NO, i didn't men dial-up isn't for limewire, i'm just saying most my REAL point is that most people dont share, and there should be something that can speed up downloads.
I mean, if you can see my scheme above, it might help LimeWire out, but who knows? maybe people will start downloadin faster.
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Your right about that...

But theres another problem with that...
If LimeWire makes, minimal 25kb upload speed.
Then people going to take the files from the shared folder and put in in another folder.

If LimeWire could make it somehow with points... Every 100kb that has been uploaded +1 point. And for every 1000kb downloading -1 point.

Right now, the upload speed is 58kb/s. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower.

If u see how many people downloading those dvds... and u look how many people sharing it... well... i get almust everyday 5 different people that downloading it. But there are just about +/- 5 people who shares it, sometimes 10 but thats seldom.
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JohnnySlater & File Supporter

I'm not quite sure if I understand what you guys are suggesting but it seems that you are both saying that LW Basic (& may be Pro too) should have a minimum upload speed usage set (at 28.44 kbs - modem speed).

Now, to you guys this might seem a brilliant idea (because you have broadband connections and live in the US where the cabling infrastucture is great) but what about people in other parts of the world that do not have great cabling infrastucture, people who do not have the latest high speed PCs or users where their ISPs have decided to introduce "bandwidth shaping".

It's obvious that you guys have not really thought through your suggestion carefully enough or have (unintentionally) taken a very parochial view.



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I just compare with my own region...
I have home, just for 30 euro, u have max 70kb/s upload speed.
other packets:
20 euro, 35kb/s.
30 euro, 70kb/s.
50 euro, 140kb/s.


The people who has modem, and have a lower upload speed then 25kb/s, it will just slow down. So from 25kb/s, it will be maybe 10kb/s. And if LW works with points, it will take a little longer to get 1 point.
Im not agree with blocking everyone who hasnt 25kb/s upload speed... but in the option, the lowest what u can fill in must be 25kb/s.

This way people can download at full speed!

I dont even understand why LW put that 'changing uploadspeed'-thing in option... Everyone that downloads must also share things! Thats what i think about it

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Couldn't limewire just monitor the connection speeds and set the upload rate accordingly, or ask what kind of a connection a user has and use that to create the limits.

Eg, if a user selects '56k modem' the upload speed would be lowered, but the download speed could also be capped to the limits of that kind of connection.

That would even things out for people who try to share less, as by choosing 'modem' they lower both their upload and download rates..

Edit: The current controls in the "options" menu could still be used, with 100% of download/upload bandwidth reflecting the amount of the maximum abilities of chosen connection type, and vica-versa, though upload limits obviously bottoming out at a respectable amount before they become too low dependant on the connection

meh.

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I don't mean to knock your idea:
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Couldn't limewire just monitor the connection speeds and set the upload rate accordingly, or ask what kind of a connection a user has and use that to create the limits.
But LW does not own or control the network, you forget that it is a Gnutella network not a LW network. Therefore, LW does not have the right to monitor, control or impose any kind of conditions on the network.

I know you, and the the other guys, are worried about speed (both upload and download) but the only fair way that everybody can benefit is when telecom/ISP companies invest in better infrastructure and not impose stupid restrictions like "bandwidth shaping" on their users.



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I meant for each individual application monitoring the speed of each individuals current connection speed to allow it to form settings dependant on that.

I know limewire has no control over the network.
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The Gnutella Net was set up for everybody not just those with fast connection speeds. There are allot of people out there that are not as lucky as some of us and either can not afford, or have available to them the fast connection speeds.

Now a person that is on dial up lets say 56k modem can DL at around 8Kb/s and that is if they have there UL speed set to 1Kb/s and it will take them around 30 min to DL an average MP3 file. I hate to tell you this but I don't really care if they don't share at all while they are DLing as long as they share some of the time.

I usually leave LW running 24/7 UL at 45Kb/s at night and 35Kb/s during the time I am using the computer for other things. I very rarely DL anything other than when I am testing.

The reason I do this is because the Gnutella net and LimeWire was set up by unselfish people who just wanted the ability to share and transfer files with others.

Now if you want to tell me that I have to share a certain amount in order to use LimeWire I would just tell you to kiss my and quit sharing all together. That isn't what it is all about.

Anyway there are other apps out there that are set up like what you are talking about. If that is what you want then just use them.

LimeWire and the Gnutella net will survive without you. It has survived and thrived for a long time using it current format. And it keeps growing and most likely will continue to grow because it doesn't put restrictions on people. If you want something to fail just start putting restrictions and conditions on it.

I do not think you thought you suggestion through. You apparently thought about yourself and stooped there. Try thinking about the others out there that are not as lucky as you are.

If you go back to the early days of file sharing everybody had dial up. If you want to talk about sloooooow that was slow.

(It must be bed time I just spent 20 min righting an opinion in a thread that hasn't had any activity in almost 2 months)
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