Gnutella Forums  

Go Back   Gnutella Forums > Current Gnutella Client Forums > LimeWire+WireShare (Cross-platform) > New Feature Requests
Register FAQ The Twelve Commandments Members List Calendar Arcade Find the Best VPN Today's Posts

New Feature Requests Your idea for a cool new feature. Or, a LimeWire annoyance that has to get changed.


Welcome To Gnutella Forums

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, fun aspects such as the image caption contest and play in the arcade, and access many other special features after your registration and email confirmation. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! (click here) (Note: we use Yandex mail server so make sure yandex is not on your email filter or blocklist.)

If you have any problems with the Gnutella Forum registration process or your Gnutella Forum account login, please contact us (this is not for program use questions.) Your email address must be legitimate and verified before becoming a full member of the forums. Please be sure to disable any spam filters you may have for our website, so that email messages can reach you.
Note: Any other issue with registration, etc., send a Personal Message (PM) to one of the active Administrators: Lord of the Rings or Birdy.

Once registered but before posting, members MUST READ the FORUM RULES (click here) and members should include System details - help us to help you (click on blue link) in their posts if their problem relates to using the program. Whilst forum helpers are happy to help where they can, without these system details your post might be ignored. And wise to read How to create a New Thread

Thank you

If you are a Spammer click here.
This is not a business advertising forum, all member profiles with business advertising will be banned, all their posts removed. Spamming is illegal in many countries of the world. Guests and search engines cannot view member profiles.



           Deutsch?              Español?                  Français?                   Nederlands?
   Hilfe in Deutsch,   Ayuda en español,   Aide en français et LimeWire en françaisHulp in het Nederlands

Forum Rules

Support Forums

Before you post to one of the specific Client Help and Support Conferences in Gnutella Client Forums please look through other threads and Stickies that may answer your questions. Most problems are not new. The Search function is most useful. Also the red Stickies have answers to the most commonly asked questions. (over 90 percent).
If your problem is not resolved by a search of the forums, please take the next step and post in the appropriate forum. There are many members who will be glad to help.
If you are new to the world of file sharing please do not be shy! Everyone was ‘new’ when they first started.

When posting, please include details for:
Your Operating System ....... Your version of your Gnutella Client (* this is important for helping solve problems) ....... Your Internet connection (56K, Cable, DSL) ....... The exact error message, if one pops up
Any other relevant information that you think may help ....... Try to make your post descriptive, specific, and clear so members can quickly and efficiently help you. To aid helpers in solving download/upload problems, LimeWire and Frostwire users must specify whether they are downloading a torrent file or a file from the Gnutella network.
Members need to supply these details >>> System details - help us to help you (click on blue link)


Moderators

There are senior members on the forums who serve as Moderators. These volunteers keep the board organized and moving.
Moderators are authorized to: (in order of increasing severity)
Move posts to the correct forums. Many times, members post in the wrong forum. These off-topic posts may impede the normal operation of the forum.
Edit posts. Moderators will edit posts that are offensive or break any of the House Rules.
Delete posts. Posts that cannot be edited to comply with the House Rules will be deleted.
Restrict members. This is one of the last punishments before a member is banned. Restrictions may include placing all new posts in a moderation queue or temporarily banning the offender.
Ban members. The most severe punishment. Three or more moderators or administrators must agree to the ban for this action to occur. Banning is reserved for very severe offenses and members who, after many warnings, fail to comply with the House Rules. Banning is permanent. Bans cannot be removed by the moderators and probably won't be removed by the administration.


The Rules

1. Warez, copyright violation, or any other illegal activity may NOT be linked or expressed in any form. Topics discussing techniques for violating these laws and messages containing locations of web sites or other servers hosting illegal content will be silently removed. Multiple offenses will result in consequences. File names are not required to discuss your issues. If filenames are copyright then do not belong on these forums & will be edited out or post removed. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

2. Spamming and excessive advertising will not be tolerated. Commercial advertising is not allowed in any form, including using in signatures.

3. There will be no excessive use of profanity in any forum.

4. There will be no racial, ethnic, or gender based insults, or any other personal attacks.

5. Pictures may be attached to posts and signatures if they are not sexually explicit or offensive. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

6. Remember to post in the correct forum. Take your time to look at other threads and see where your post will go. If your post is placed in the wrong forum it will be moved by a moderator. There are specific Gnutella Client sections for LimeWire, Phex, FrostWire, BearShare, Gnucleus, Morpheus, and many more. Please choose the correct section for your problem.

7. If you see a post in the wrong forum or in violation of the House Rules, please contact a moderator via Private Message or the "Report this post to a moderator" link at the bottom of every post. Please do not respond directly to the member - a moderator will do what is required.

8. Any impersonation of a forum member in any mode of communication is strictly prohibited and will result in banning.

9. Multiple copies of the same post will not be tolerated. Post your question, comment, or complaint only once. There is no need to express yourself more than once. Duplicate posts will be deleted with little or no warning. Keep in mind a forum censor may temporarily automatically hold up your post, if you do not see your post, do not post again, it will be dealt with by a moderator within a reasonable time. Authors of multiple copies of same post may be dealt with by moderators within their discrete judgment at the time which may result in warning or infraction points, depending on severity as adjudged by the moderators online.

10. Posts should have descriptive topics. Vague titles such as "Help!", "Why?", and the like may not get enough attention to the contents.

11. Do not divulge anyone's personal information in the forum, not even your own. This includes e-mail addresses, IP addresses, age, house address, and any other distinguishing information. Don´t use eMail addresses in your nick. Reiterating, do not post your email address in posts. This is for your own protection.

12. Signatures may be used as long as they are not offensive or sexually explicit or used for commercial advertising. Commercial weblinks cannot be used under any circumstances and will result in an immediate ban.

13. Dual accounts are not allowed. Cannot explain this more simply. Attempts to set up dual accounts will most likely result in a banning of all forum accounts.

14. Video links may only be posted after you have a tally of two forum posts. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam.

15. Failure to show that you have read the forum rules may result in forum rules breach infraction points or warnings awarded against you which may later total up to an automatic temporary or permanent ban. Supplying system details is a prerequisite in most cases, particularly with connection or installation issues.

Violation of any of these rules will bring consequences, determined on a case-by-case basis.


Thank You! Thanks for taking the time to read these forum guidelines. We hope your visit is helpful and mutually beneficial to the entire community.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old May 28th, 2008
Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 28th, 2008
Posts: 6
dijital is flying high
Exclamation !!Junk Filter Being Misused!!

I have noticed recently that virtually everything I search for is marked as junk. My guess is spammers are marking everything as junk so we can't tell what is genuine.

Is there a solution in the pipeline?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old May 31st, 2008
Disciple
 
Join Date: May 31st, 2008
Posts: 12
biohaze is flying high
Angry

Let me ask you one thing is most of the junk files 100-200kb?

are you search programs?

Do you download these programs?

If you do you are downloading viruses most of the time.


We need to be allowed to browse host and mark their junk. I have browsed a lot of ppl that have these file and they have nothing but viruses in there. I am mad that i just cant mark their entire libary as junk cause thats what it is. If this feature would cause to much troblue. Then how about ALL files be scaned BEFORE UPLOADED i search Age of Empires 3 and get only viruses or games with the rong name

Doesn't it seem weird that there are over 30 files that are 110kb-113kb These files are viruses and deserve to be marked junk this is not abuse i am doing what the feature was made for.

Age of empires is not 100kb its at least 500mb

Thank you i am getting sick of these viruses and if you got a problem with these files being marked junk so they dont spread and take over Limewire then who knows you might be one of the people posting them.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old May 31st, 2008
Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 28th, 2008
Posts: 6
dijital is flying high
Angry

I'm not an idiot, I don't even look twice at anything under 1Mb.

And I was searching audio, for Coldplay's Violet Hill that was released for free. I don't open viruses, again I'm not a retard. I use an up-to-date virus scanner and the files were fine no viruses and played perfectly well. Why were they marked as junk?

As for your idea of all files being scanned before being available for download, it's preposterous. Limewire doesn't have the computing power to do such a thing and if you are looking for that sort of thing you may as well use a torrent where you can read people's comments on files before you download.

I hope your happy with your copy of AofE3, you're misuse of P2P is what's leading to the blocking of P2P for everyone, even legitimate users.

You say I must be a spammer? Yeah definitely, that's why I'm taking time to post on a forum about the weaknesses in Limewire's spam-blocking system.

If you actually took the time to read my original post you'll see that I'm not suggesting the removal of the "Mark as junk" facility, simply noting that it has become ineffective due to misuse by spammers, and asking if any work is being done to solve the problem.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old May 31st, 2008
A reader, not an expert
 
Join Date: January 11th, 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,613
stief has a spectacular aura about
Default

dijital--when you see the conditions you describe, that usually means LW is connected to mainly spam servers. Check out the connections pane to look for a pattern.

Usually using an "any type" search with a ridiculous search term like "fuo bar .jpg" (or anything else nonsensical) will indicate the quality of the connections. If the initial search gives very few results, then your peers are not bad. If a repeat search gives a few bad results, that's OK--the spam servers are several hops away.

If you get 100's of bad results immediately, start deleting the hosts in your connections that you think are mostly spammers.

As for a long term fix--no easy fix is in the works AFAI can see.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old May 31st, 2008
Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 28th, 2008
Posts: 6
dijital is flying high
Default

Thanks for replying with a more coherent reply. However I just wanted to check you understand the situation I'm trying to describe.

The files are not junk, they are the files I was searching for. Yet they have been marked as junk by Limewire and are shunted to the bottom of the list. I tried downloading a couple, since the Artist and Album tags etc were correct even though I had not provided all those details, and they were fine, not junk at all.

So in this case deleting hosts in my connections would not help since the files are valid. They have simply been incorrectly tagged as junk, presumably by spammers trying to make it more difficult to tell which files are genuine.

Perhaps if Limewire were to change the algorithm for marking junk. Maybe give more weight to the opinion of those who have correctly identified junk in agreement with other users in the past. And also remove all junk reports from users who are identified as spammers attempting to abuse the system.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old May 31st, 2008
Peerless's Avatar
Riding a Pale Horse and Wielding THE Sword of the Forum
 
Join Date: June 19th, 2002
Location: Your Worst Nightmare
Posts: 2,993
Peerless is a jewel in the rough
Default

you are using an incorrect term....these people are NOT spammers, rather paid henchmen of the RIAA/MPAA...are more appropriate term would be scum, filth, a$$holes who need to get a real job and do real work as opposed to charging companies for a project that will never, ever work....and we the consumers are paying the price as the companies just pass the cost along to us...
__________________


So Long and Thanks for All the Files
_____________________________________________

Beware of the big 3 insurance companies in Texas! Read your policies carefully (maybe you'll need a lawyer) Allstate, Farmers & State Farm are overextended and their 'coverage' is worthless...a true waste of your money Read This
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old May 31st, 2008
Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 28th, 2008
Posts: 6
dijital is flying high
Default

Could well be, but "spammers" is easier to type than "paid henchmen of the RIAA/MPAA".
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old May 31st, 2008
A reader, not an expert
 
Join Date: January 11th, 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,613
stief has a spectacular aura about
Default

dijital, sorry if this sounds too obvious, but marking the legit results as "not junk" is supposed to help such situations you describe, where the filter (baynesian, IIRC), can learn what you think is junk or not.

If you have the technical ability to provide a test case for the algorithm not reponding appropriately (or better yet, a patch), the devs are fairly appreciative. Posting on LimeWire Forums will probably attract their attention.

If you can read java code, check out https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/LWC

cheers

btw, you may want to check out Credence. LW worked with Credence for a bit Credence: Thwarting P2P Pollution but I can't recall the reason for not implementing it.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old June 1st, 2008
Disciple
 
Join Date: May 31st, 2008
Posts: 12
biohaze is flying high
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dijital View Post
I have noticed recently that virtually everything I search for is marked as junk. My guess is spammers are marking everything as junk so we can't tell what is genuine.

Is there a solution in the pipeline?
SORRY

but by what you posted i didnt know you were talking about something like a not junk file being marked file if you wont i can post quote what you said again ( na just joshin ya)



"I hope your happy with your copy of AofE3, you're misuse of P2P is what's leading to the blocking of P2P for everyone, even legitimate users."

and no i am not misuseing the junk filter by marking viruses as junk!!!!!

Unless you are suposse to mark viruses not junk and good **** junk
(I know this isnt right that why i dont do it)

The reason P2P is becoming blocked is because 99% of them are mainly used for downloading priated music software, document, pic, and vids. It has nothing to do with me marking viruses as junk i am sorry.

Your best bet if you dont want stuff like i said to happen is to post what you really mean?
Like:

"The files are not junk, they are the files I was searching for. Yet they have been marked as junk by Limewire and are shunted to the bottom of the list. I tried downloading a couple, since the Artist and Album tags etc were correct even though I had not provided all those details, and they were fine, not junk at all."

I am sorry that your first post lead me to belive you were talking about something else like the TONS of junk files that come up that are viruses.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old June 1st, 2008
Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 28th, 2008
Posts: 6
dijital is flying high
Default

Apologies if I didn't make myself clear in the first post; I assumed other people would be having a similar problem and perhaps didn't explain the situation as well as I could have done.

Quote:
Originally Posted by biohaze View Post
SORRY
The reason P2P is becoming blocked is because 99% of them are mainly used for downloading priated music software, document, pic, and vids. It has nothing to do with me marking viruses as junk i am sorry.
That is exactly what I am saying; you are boasting about downloading AofE3 (pirated software) and this is what's causing ISPs to block P2P. I said nothing about you marking anything as junk.

Anyway, that's beside the point. Now I've explained the situation a little better, does anyone know if any solutions are lined up for the next version of Limewire? Or if there are any better methods of junk detection already available with other P2P software?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

Copyright © 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.