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Old July 16th, 2008
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The other side is overall network health:

If all searches return just about 300 results, then only 300 results per query have to be transported, and that means that the network has to transport less searches and that it can be scaled up to become more efficient.

So much now for the technical reason.

Now for my own experience: Yes, spam bugs me, too, and much so.

There are simply files which are very hard to find, because spam stops the search, so legimitate results don't even get into reach.

And though there once was an idea how to stop spam for good, that idea got implemented in a LimeWire, and it never made its way into the mainstream LW.

So at the moment, we don't have good enough anti-spam algorithms, and Gnutella is widespread enough that people spam it.

It might be that the technical reason will be too weak, soon, so we'll have to adapt the way of searching.

It is damn efficient, but it gets spammed too badly to allow finding rare files.

IDEA: Don't stop rare searches on some results. Always carry them through till we got at least 300 results. The spam will make sure that the network doesn't get hit by this (I know this sounds strange, but we can leverage the spammers to keep the network safe from greedy searches - they won't like this ).
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Hi, wowpow, Gregor and arne !

Some questions that come to my mind... Perhaps/probably not applicable...

wowpow says that wowpow is acting as an ultrapeer...
Nice, but what is the total size of the files being shared by wowpow ?

What is wowpow's real-world up bandwidth ?

Should wowpow be acting as an ultrapeer ?
(A minimum, I am suggesting from observations over years, of 95% of those on Gnutella Network should NOT elect to be ultrapeers.)

What else is wowpow doing in terms of activities on the internet simultaneously with wowpow's searching efforts ?

What port is wowpow using ?

Fun questions, hmmm ?
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Old July 18th, 2008
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Hi, wowpow, Gregor and arne !

Some questions that come to my mind... Perhaps/probably not applicable...

wowpow says that wowpow is acting as an ultrapeer...
Nice, but what is the total size of the files being shared by wowpow ?

What is wowpow's real-world up bandwidth ?

Should wowpow be acting as an ultrapeer ?
(A minimum, I am suggesting from observations over years, of 95% of those on Gnutella Network should NOT elect to be ultrapeers.)

What else is wowpow doing in terms of activities on the internet simultaneously with wowpow's searching efforts ?

What port is wowpow using ?

Fun questions, hmmm ?

To awnser your questions.

Total size of shares depends what I have to spread mostly between 1 and 10 GB , mainly Mp3 ( yes those rare titles you cant find with Phex )

Upload is 1mbit pure upload stream

Standaard port is been used for Gnutella

I act as Ultrapeer to get more results or should I act as leave and have less results ? , define your problem with that.

I dont really go into details of your effort question of what I do else but Phex runs mainly at night where traffic is less in this area so to have a better peformance due night activities .

For the fun I have a open Internet account so that means no ports are blocked and no filtering takes place.

@Arne

For the fake , spam , etc queries I think there will never be a propper solution for that just like with mails , even a 30 years jail will not stop spammers to continue , a 20 Mb or 30 Mb file can also be spam just like the serveral millions 168 Kb , 178 kb etc files with notorious virus files that are flooding the gnutella network, to stop that is to read them out mark them and ban them but he then no one gets connected ever because unknow people who download them shares them most of the time tough as they dont know what they are sharing , but it aint a centralized network so you will not have succes to do so , lowering queries aint a solution either to stop it. at the end you will have only fake files in your search results at least 50-60% if you aint using Phex filtering sytem to remove them from you actual search results but still they are results .

Maybe you could also add a what those files are and where users should look at , suspicous file , names , etc , your experiance will know that to what files etc, just an idea to.
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