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Old July 23rd, 2003
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Question Post here strategies to protect against R.I.A.A. suits, hiding your IP Address, etc..

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER...

OK guys, let's get down to business and SHARE ideas and strategies to protect ourselves from these bast*rds trying to sue us for sharing music with each other!

*PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE* POST YOUR IDEAS AND STRATEGIES *HERE*ON HOW TO DOWNLOAD & SHARE MUSIC ANONYMOUSLY, OR AT LEAST MAKE IT HARD FOR THE R.I.A.A. TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY YOU AND PURSUE YOU.

Now is NOT the time to just stand by and "wait to see what happens"! We must protect ourselves, we must protect each other, and we must stop this madness.

Again, if you have any ideas of how to make yourself anonymous while downloading and sharing files, stop the R.I.A.A. from being able to know your IP Address, and so on, POST IT HERE FOR ALL TO SEE!

DO NOT THINK THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THE ANSWERS ALREADY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T! EVEN "COMMON SENSE" TACTICS ON HOW TO HIDE YOUR IP ADDRESS FROM THE R.I.A.A. SHOULD BE POSTED HERE - LET US HELP EACH OTHER OUT HERE, LET US NOT ADOPT THE ATTITUDE OF "WHATEVER..I'M SAFE"...BECAUSE NO ONE IS SAFE ANYMORE!

Do we really want to go back to the dark days of non-internet music sharing? Are we gonna let these rich bast*rds win?

I THINK NOT! SHARE YOUR TACTICS AND LETS US STAND TOGETHER AGAINST THE R.I.A.A. TYRANNY!
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

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Old July 23rd, 2003
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Default Some Ideas

Don't share infringing content!

Problem solved.
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Old July 24th, 2003
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Default Hmmm...

Gee Lee..why didn't I think of that?

Your absolutely right..I need to stop sharing all my music files (since they all make me a target for the R.I.A.A.), and then, everyone else needs to do the same thing...and then...hey..what happened to all the Peer to Peer networks?
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Old July 24th, 2003
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I'm living in Germany, our ISPs are not allowed to hand out names and addresses to the RIAA or the German equivalent.

There have not been any lawsuits against p2p-users for sharing music yet. If they finally come to Germany, I will start using my ISPs http proxy to upload files, so they cannot track my IP.
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Old July 24th, 2003
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Default Re: Hmmm...

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Originally posted by Nightbird
Gee Lee..why didn't I think of that?

Your absolutely right..I need to stop sharing all my music files (since they all make me a target for the R.I.A.A.), and then, everyone else needs to do the same thing...and then...hey..what happened to all the Peer to Peer networks?
Why, they'd be a valuable method of storing and distributing publically available files, able to ensure wide availability and resilience while placing minimal burden on hosts.

I'm sure there's a very good case to be made against price-fixing in the U.S. entertainment industry, but theft isn't endearing anyone to its cause. Stealing Porsches isn't acceptable just because they are overpriced.
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Old July 24th, 2003
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Thumbs down Alrighty then...

If someone chooses to share their private music files with me, then the key word is SHARE...I didn't break into their computer and steal anything...they of their own right and will have chosen to share their files -now where's the theft in that? The fact that this is happening on a large scale is what the problem is, but the fact that it is happening on such a large scale DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE ARE *SHARING* WITH EACH OTHER, AND NOT STEALING ANYTHING FROM ANYONE. I have the right to share what is mine with whomever I want.

This whole thing reminds me of when the music industry used to say the same thing about people copying music on their tape recorders, and later on their CD's and sharing it with others.

Ok enough...let's share ideas on how to stop these nuts from trying to prosecute us for *sharing* our own private files, and not go back and forth on the bogus legal claims made by the R.I.A.A. This thread is not for supporters of these nuts, sorry!
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Default Re: Hmmm...

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Originally posted by Nightbird
Gee Lee..why didn't I think of that?

Your absolutely right..I need to stop sharing all my music files (since they all make me a target for the R.I.A.A.), and then, everyone else needs to do the same thing...and then...hey..what happened to all the Peer to Peer networks?
They will continue to exist and be used for other purposes.
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I'm living in Germany, our ISPs are not allowed to hand out names and addresses to the RIAA or the German equivalent.

There have not been any lawsuits against p2p-users for sharing music yet. If they finally come to Germany, I will start using my ISPs http proxy to upload files, so they cannot track my IP.
I've had this discussion many times and although this is not specific to the LimeWire community but applies to P2P in general i think it's worth a look.

It's a FAQ on why anonymous P2P won't work.

http://forums.overnet.com/phpBBovr/v...ic.php?t=48038
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Why, they'd be a valuable method of storing and distributing publically available files, able to ensure wide availability and resilience while placing minimal burden on hosts.

I'm sure there's a very good case to be made against price-fixing in the U.S. entertainment industry, but theft isn't endearing anyone to its cause. Stealing Porsches isn't acceptable just because they are overpriced.
Thank you for your comments.
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Originally posted by Nightbird
If someone chooses to share their private music files with me, then the key word is SHARE...I didn't break into their computer and steal anything...they of their own right and will have chosen to share their files -now where's the theft in that? The fact that this is happening on a large scale is what the problem is, but the fact that it is happening on such a large scale DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE ARE *SHARING* WITH EACH OTHER, AND NOT STEALING ANYTHING FROM ANYONE. I have the right to share what is mine with whomever I want.

This whole thing reminds me of when the music industry used to say the same thing about people copying music on their tape recorders, and later on their CD's and sharing it with others.

Ok enough...let's share ideas on how to stop these nuts from trying to prosecute us for *sharing* our own private files, and not go back and forth on the bogus legal claims made by the R.I.A.A. This thread is not for supporters of these nuts, sorry!
We've discussed this whole issue at length please see comments.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...=Legal+Aspects
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