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Vampmon September 23rd, 2004 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Morgwen
I wouldn´t say it to loud, Morpheus bundles a lot of crapware and there are/was some between which had viruses. Limewire had two years (?) ago a virus in a program named "clicktillyouwin", the developers said that they don´t check the programs they bundle, they trust to the signed agreement... I suppose the morpheus developers do it the same way.

Morgwen

Not necessarily, some antivirus detectors, such as AVG sometimes detect some things as a virus. As long as everyone using AntiVirus software keep there definitions up-to-date everything will be fine. :)

Morgwen September 23rd, 2004 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Vampmon
Not necessarily, some antivirus detectors, such as AVG sometimes detect some things as a virus. As long as everyone using AntiVirus software keep there definitions up-to-date everything will be fine. :)
I can´t remember which scanners, but there were more people who reported this.... funny was that the Limewire developers removed this crap after some weeks...

Morgwen

Vampmon September 23rd, 2004 02:34 PM

Well, maybe it was a virus, but maybe they wanted to have a fresh start by releasing v4.0 free of any bundles. Who knows, only they do.

Morgwen September 23rd, 2004 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Vampmon
but maybe they wanted to have a fresh start by releasing v4.0 free of any bundles.
They bundled other crap loooooooooooooooooooooong after this and looooooooooooooooong before v4.0.

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Who knows, only they do.
I talked with Adam Fisk (a former developer) about it he told me some things... the bad thing is that I deleted all my PMs some time ago. :(

Morgwen

Vampmon September 23rd, 2004 02:55 PM

Damn, that sucks! Maybe it would have been good to know the real truth behind LimeWire LLC

trap_jaw4 September 23rd, 2004 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Vampmon
Well, maybe it was a virus, but maybe they wanted to have a fresh start by releasing v4.0 free of any bundles. Who knows, only they do.
It was not a virus, some virus scanners decieded to consider this a trojan because it was capable of downloading other programs and installing them without asking the user. - By itself it may not have been dangerous but it was a big security risk.

The reason 4.0 is free of any bundles is obviously a new business strategy. There are apparently enough Pro customers to finance further development and by not bundling any software, LimeWire gains credibility and even more users. Ever since spyware became an issue for the average user, bundling software became just bad advertising.

Personally, I don't believe that spyware/adware is really that bad, if you know what your doing, you can always get rid of it again and it's usually not really malicious. It may try gathering some information about surfing habits but you can do the same and more using a couple of webservers and a lot of cookies. If you ever wondered what google is putting into all that cookies it stores in your browser or where those fastclick/hitbox cookies come from, they are for tracking surfing habits, storing which searches you enter in google, which google ads you click. With its market-share, Google can monitor surfers on every website that displays Google ads.

trap_jaw4 September 23rd, 2004 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Morgwen
They bundled other crap loooooooooooooooooooooong after this and looooooooooooooooong before v4.0
Clicktillyouwin was in LW 2.6 AFAIK, after that they were mainly bundling LimeShop. - Can't seem to remember who they licensed it from, it was not really their own invention.... Was one of the more common pieces of bundled software at the time.

et voilà September 23rd, 2004 03:50 PM

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Damn, that sucks! Maybe it would have been good to know the real truth behind LimeWire LLC
And so do I about Morpheus.

@ Vampmon: T R O L L ! ! !

At least with LW they didn't bundle crap on Mac and Linux and it was possible to compile your own version as I do (trap_jaw too) now. Those things can't be said about the POS company that builds Moprheus isn't it? :rolleyes:

Edit: LW came with spywares between released versions 1.8 and 3.8.

Vampmon September 23rd, 2004 03:55 PM

et voilà, why don’t you stop being so bias about Morpheus. I am trying to be fair with LimeWire, I even defend it when it’s needed, but you try your all time best to drag Morpheus down, well I’m sorry volia, but it’s not going to work.

et voilà September 23rd, 2004 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Vampmon
et voilà, why don’t you stop being so bias about Morpheus. I am trying to be fair with LimeWire, I even defend it when it’s needed, but you try your all time best to drag Morpheus down, well I’m sorry volia, but it’s not going to work.
Wow knowing what you say on other forums like zeropaid about LW, I think you deserve a:

STOP ACTING AS A TROLL!

I'd like one time that you REALLY read one of my post, then you would realize it all makes sense. :rolleyes:


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