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mtntravler September 11th, 2005 01:56 PM

Disable partial files
 
From what I've heard, allowing parially downloaded files makes it faster for people to download them. Since the file in it's entirety is out there, you can connect with the host who has the entire file, then connect with hosts who have the partial file. The portion of the file from the partial file sharer will download that much faster. So it's actually good to allow partial file sharing in most cases.

Only A Hobo September 11th, 2005 02:09 PM

hmmm ... interesting I still feel it can lead to bad files ... most of my incompletes stay that way for weeks....being mostly somewhat obscure.... good food for thought.

mtntravler September 11th, 2005 02:57 PM

Hey, It' only what I've heard. It sounds good in theory, but yet to be proven to me. It was in a file I downloaded a long time ago entitled "how to make Limewire faster." It made a lot of sense, but for all I know, it could have been put out by someone who also shares viruses and/or spam.

stief September 11th, 2005 03:32 PM

mtntravler, you're right about partial sharing: it is indeed a very good thing.

Like Bittorrent, Partial File Sharing allows many hosts to share the pieces they already have even before they have the complete file, and thus take the load off the original supplier.

A tremendous amount of work has gone into making PFS and the "download mesh" work well so that large files especially can get distributed quickly.

At one time there were corruption issues, but then the developers and opensource coders implemented THEX, which allowed the verification of even very small chunks of the file. If you watch your uploads in the monitor pane, you'll often see early in the upload "uploading hash tree" (THEX). PFS at work :)


In short, PFS is a key reason many downloads can complete so quickly.

Only A Hobo September 11th, 2005 03:47 PM

OK You've both convinced me!! :)

Grandpa September 11th, 2005 03:51 PM

While it may make getting files faster at what cost should be taken into consideration. If it just flooding the network with bad files what good is it.

Only A Hobo September 11th, 2005 04:13 PM

hmmm there are 2 sides to this aren't there!

personally I do like to check out files before re-sharing them and one springs to mind which I'd like to mention .... but won't .... just to say it is a bootleg album, which as I understand it was made as an experiment specifically for p2p networks which claimed (entirely without foundation) to be an unreleased official album. I downloaded it a while back as an mp3 and it is now all over LW, ostensibly as a video of something rather different. It is still however the same old audio album. nothing sinister about it btw. :confused:

ultracross September 11th, 2005 05:13 PM

partial files do not return results, so you should never beable to see them in a search unless someone moves them into the shared dir.

Grandpa September 11th, 2005 10:21 PM

ultracross

Unless I am mistaken when you are DL a file it is black in you incoming folder while the rest are red. If I do not have LW set to disallow partial files the black files will show they are being UL to other members in the UL collum. Does this not mean they are being shared and is not LW default setting to share incomplete files.

paulflute September 15th, 2005 02:27 PM

chat on mac
 
Hi there hobo....

Just wondering how i access chat on a mac that has now right click....
I here that it's not great be would be nice to try sometimes.....
cheers paul.....


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