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Old July 1st, 2006
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OOPS you don't allow PM's if you send me one could i respond to you with my ip
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I am going out but will stay connected all day Injoy
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I didn't notice this yesterday for some reason, but do you say that you have your uploadbandwidth set to unlimited ?

Then there is no wonder that you experience some problems downloading.

This will make your Limewire weird when you are uploading at max speed, because the program won't have bandwidth to send messages to the hosts that you're connected to. You should leave some space for Limewire to work with.

300kbps/8 = 37,5 KB/sec
200kbps/8 = 25 KB/sec

I would try maybe 28 KB/sec. You might see some improvement with Limewire then. Also 20 slots for that kind of bandwidth probably causes a lot of irritation to others when several people are downloading from you.

I have set it to 50 KB up when in fact I have 59-62 in speedtests. That allows me to play poker without much internet delay under usual circumstances. If I have many Downloads from many hosts then I set it to 45 KB up if I intend to play during uptime.
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Yesterday was a long day of trial & error!!!

I learned a fair bit i didn't realize before about my use of and the limitations of LW so here are a few notes.

Firstly i learned that you really need to hang in there and be persistent. I was the type of user who thought i could select 20 or 30 mp3's for download and then do what ever i wanted come back a few hours later an have most of those tunes in my library WRONG. Especially if you are trying to get those tunes from 1 host as that was my preferred method only because this way i could browse hosts with similar musical tastes and get tunes i wouldn't even have a clue to search for. Still my favorite way to get new tunes, but requires me to be much more interactive. Yesterday i found a host who had a little over 6,500 (thanks dude you are stylin love your taste) tunes available he was set on T1 so i set mine to T1 as well with bandwidth slider on max for up & down. I did a few speed tests and had UL 200/300 & DL 800/900 All day i only downloaded from the 1 host if i was only trying 1 at a time they came in at 45/55kbs if i took 2 at a time 50/70kbs total was avg. If i took a third it would avg. 60/80 the fourth i basically got waiting on busy host or need more sources. This sometimes happened with only 3 slots but when it happened mostly with the 4th demand it usually affected all the slots so if i hadn't been there to cancel 1 or 2 of them and resume or research the others downloads would have stopped and maybe not restarted. I kept my eye on uploads with my bandwith slider on max and the speed test of 200/300 and max slots of 30 total and 20 per person speed was pretty much around 33kbs all day (Sleepless your calculations seem right on. Earlier i had mentioned hitting max's of over 100kbs this came from looking at stats and i now belive this stat refers to your setting rather than what has been achieved) with avg. 9 to 18 slots open. So no matter how high i put my settings at LW ran at my max potential.

At the end of like a 6 hour session with the 1 host things came to a crawl maybe he lowered his bandwidth or was getting more traffic than earlier i restarted LW thinking it was me and tryin to improve things but could not get connected with that host again i only made it to the F's searching by his artists but hey i got some really cool music and learned about some new artists that have had me buzzing with a total high ever since

At this time i did a bunch of searches for more obscure stuff i got from him i never found him again but along the way started several DL's from different hosts up to 15 slots at one time all working well and i was avg. 80/90kbs most of the time. I did have to resume or research some of them but for the most part they completed as long as i was not going over 2 slots per host.

Just a Hobo tried but failed to do a direct connect with an ip i got off one of the speed tests. Well i did another speed test from same server and they gave me a new ip so that file i sent you to search for might be the best way although there might be others with the same name if it is the file size i gave you it is me or someone who got it from me. Yesterday when you had sent the other pm's about not finding it i was already off line sorry i am connected now and will be for the next 15 hours so have another go.

Lord of The Rings i was offline by the time you tried to connect and the ip is unreliable so i will PM the file name and size to search for.

I will be connected but out so i can't interact with you guys til the tonite Good luck and hope your Happy in your Travels

The 6 Thousand MP3 Man you Rock and i will forever attempt to find you again.

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[QUOTE=Deepend]I did have to resume or research some of them but for the most part they completed as long as i was not going over 2 slots per host.

Deepend, how do you know that you're downloading only 2 slots per host? When I do a search, obviously I get a number of results, but there is no indication of who the host is unless I go into 'browse' host - don't really want to do this if the files I want are in the main search - I would have to go into each file and browse host to make sure I am not going over two slots?? Or am I being dim? Sorry, been off LW for a little while (hols) so only just catching up.

Any advice/guidance aprpreciated.
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You are right about not knowing which hosts you are downloading from if you have done a general search. Another column in the download window that listed the hosts current ip would be really helpful

I do alot of searching by browse host. If i find a source for a track i like i then try browse host as there are good possibilities they might have more things that would interest me; artists i would not know of thus could not search for. It works the other way around too; if anybody downloads from me then i always try to browse them as it seems we share the same taste. Unfortunatly less than 10% of all browse attempts go through Even if the host has the smiley face meaning they have enabled browsing & chat. Nobody seems to know why this doesn't work well or at least better. If you ask me this really sucks because i love browse host as a methode of broadening my horizens.

To take it further a list of favorites that you could add hosts to would be way cool as well. If you or anyone else thinks so go here:

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-6

register and vote on it don't forget to add a comment about adding fav. host as the original request is for fav. searches also a nice feature but without a feature like this for browse host finding a host you like a second time is not easily done if not impossible where as finding artists is EZ.

I wonder how many try browse host either not many or the failure rate is huge. 95% of my uploads each host is only hitting me up for 1 artist they take most of what i have from that artist but no other artists and i have enabled browse & chat.

Hope this helps and i hope you vote

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Hi Hyper-kun

I got the idea from other members of this forum, that is why I wrote "I understand" rather than "I know for a fact".

Reading from other more technical savvy people on this forum, such as LOTR, I understand (and possibly believe) that it may not be possible to browse someone if they are behind a firewall. However, if you know that this is untrue then I welcome your input, as this will add to the forum’s knowledgebase, all I ask is that you provide some evidentiary proof.



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I don't know how many bugs LimeWire has. LimeWire's support for host browsing is very crappy. It is not even remotely HTTP conformant. Most-likely LimeWire does not even attempt host browsing using it's very own RUDP protocol even though that works perfectly fine. I don't have to prove anything, especially not the obvious. Very few people understand what a "firewall" really is which is very obvious by reading the comments here. For most people a firewall is a magic or mysthic device. Again, if people can download files from you - no matter how - they can browse you as well (unless you explicitely disable this in your LimeWire settings). As said, whether LimeWire can actually do that or whether it's too buggy isn't the question. It's technically easily possible and every LimeWire or Gnutella developer will confirm that. Since you don't believe me anyway, I'll end the discussion here.
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Depends how much firewall additions you have I guess. LW does have the ability to navigate thru unconfigured firewalls, even for browsing. But not for direct connect searching. And there is less chance of browsing success if Chat is disabled. AFAIK

But the ability can be thwarted by particular configurations, etc. with variable success.
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Before being properly configured I had files uploaded from me that I made myself. I would guess that was from browsing since I was at the time downloading similar files. Off course I have no way of knowing for sure if the download started from being browsed or it came up in a search.

BTW one file was not rated at Bitzi so no magnetlink
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