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Old July 12th, 2006
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You are right about not knowing which hosts you are downloading from if you have done a general search. Another column in the download window that listed the hosts current ip would be really helpful

I do alot of searching by browse host. If i find a source for a track i like i then try browse host as there are good possibilities they might have more things that would interest me; artists i would not know of thus could not search for. It works the other way around too; if anybody downloads from me then i always try to browse them as it seems we share the same taste. Unfortunatly less than 10% of all browse attempts go through Even if the host has the smiley face meaning they have enabled browsing & chat. Nobody seems to know why this doesn't work well or at least better. If you ask me this really sucks because i love browse host as a methode of broadening my horizens.

To take it further a list of favorites that you could add hosts to would be way cool as well. If you or anyone else thinks so go here:

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-6

register and vote on it don't forget to add a comment about adding fav. host as the original request is for fav. searches also a nice feature but without a feature like this for browse host finding a host you like a second time is not easily done if not impossible where as finding artists is EZ.

I wonder how many try browse host either not many or the failure rate is huge. 95% of my uploads each host is only hitting me up for 1 artist they take most of what i have from that artist but no other artists and i have enabled browse & chat.

Hope this helps and i hope you vote

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Old July 13th, 2006
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..i'm a newbie, but aware of the poss probs with maxing d/ls and u/ls, but for me it goes like this

..if you have a song that interests me, by a band/singer etc that i like then chances are good you'l have others, some i haven't or more now, some i haven't even seen before, my connection rate goes up and down and periodically trees fall on the electric system so yup i browse, and take all i can, while i can

..the same applies for u/ls, as my library builds, i get to have the less common stuff, but my connection goes etc and trees fall etc , so take what you can, while you can

..for me, yes i'm tired of one way, me doing all the taking, cos it just doesn't feel right, and i thank those who don't cut me off and i apologise to those who get cut off by falling timber, try again later..
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..i'm a newbie, but aware of the poss probs with maxing d/ls and u/ls, but for me it goes like this

..if you have a song that interests me, by a band/singer etc that i like then chances are good you'l have others, some i haven't or more now, some i haven't even seen before, my connection rate goes up and down and periodically trees fall on the electric system so yup i browse, and take all i can, while i can

..the same applies for u/ls, as my library builds, i get to have the less common stuff, but my connection goes etc and trees fall etc , so take what you can, while you can

..for me, yes i'm tired of one way, me doing all the taking, cos it just doesn't feel right, and i thank those who don't cut me off and i apologise to those who get cut off by falling timber, try again later..
Yes, you make a good point, with respect to connection issues. The problem many of us face is that we want to share our collected, cleaned, verified, and sorted files, but we feel abused by people who expect to grab dozens of files from us while blocking ANY downloads of their own files. I just block them... forever.
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Old July 17th, 2006
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I know how you feel Karen Kraft, right this minute I have one 'guest' uploading 4 files at once from me, and another uploading one file. But.... is'nt this what p2p is all about?

Admittedly, I get really really annoyed when all I am (and still am) doing is looking for one particular file at the moment - this morning I found another source, but it was downloading very very slowly (doesn't usually happen this way on my computer, generally very quick - maybe it's the source that's slow?) - then I got cut out at 52% and am stuck there. Same file from another source gave me 36% then stopped dead It's been like this for two weeks now, I just hope that one of them will stop blocking me, or be back on line (if that's the cause).

This still doesn't stop me from sharing though, I appreciate that people like the files I have and I would hate it if some-one blocked me from getting these files (actually a lot of them are torrents, which are MADE for people with patience - large files can sometimes take ages and ages to download!)

Well, do we p2p, or not2p, or what?
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I know how you feel Karen Kraft, right this minute I have one 'guest' uploading 4 files at once from me, and another uploading one file. But.... is'nt this what p2p is all about?

Admittedly, I get really really annoyed when all I am (and still am) doing is looking for one particular file at the moment - this morning I found another source, but it was downloading very very slowly (doesn't usually happen this way on my computer, generally very quick - maybe it's the source that's slow?) - then I got cut out at 52% and am stuck there. Same file from another source gave me 36% then stopped dead It's been like this for two weeks now, I just hope that one of them will stop blocking me, or be back on line (if that's the cause).

This still doesn't stop me from sharing though, I appreciate that people like the files I have and I would hate it if some-one blocked me from getting these files (actually a lot of them are torrents, which are MADE for people with patience - large files can sometimes take ages and ages to download!)

Well, do we p2p, or not2p, or what?
Sure! I don't block everyone who has nothing to share.

After all, everyone has to start someplace -- with few if any shared files. But when the same person has downloaded several dozen of my files and blocks all others 100% from their own files, it's not "sharing," it's "taking."

Look at it this way: If the vast majority of people took and very few gave, the entire p2p system would break down. Obviously, there is a difference between people who don't have an open port or who have some reason not to share at a particular time. This thread was really about people I would see, day after day, taking files from me and having neither their share folder available nor their chat enabled. That's not called p2p; that's called greed.

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Quoting you Karen Kraft 'This thread was really about people I would see, day after day, taking files from me and having neither their share folder available nor their chat enabled. That's not called p2p; that's called greed.'

100% with you on this - many of my 'guests' show like this, but does not having chat enabled (therefore I assume can't browse host either?) mean that these people definitely aren't sharing?

I am fairly new to Limewire, so please excuse if I'm being a bit dim - light will dawn eventually!
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Dear KK & B2

I am a long time user of LW Pro and, from what you have posted, have a major misunderstanding of how the P2P system works.

For example, you claim that you are being blocked by certain hosts, how do you know this? If you cannot browse someone's shared files that does not mean you are being "blocked" or that you cannot download from him/her.

I use a firewall (NPF 2005) to protect my PC from attack and, I understand, that this could prevent my shared files from being browsed but it does not prevent people from downloading files from me. I know this by checking the monitoring screen in LW whereby I can see which files my PC is uploading.

I do not have "chat" enabled, does this make me a "bad person" or someone that does not want to share his files? No, it does not, it is my personal choice not to have "chat" on my PC.

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This thread was really about people I would see, day after day, taking files from me and having neither their share folder available nor their chat enabled. That's not called p2p; that's called greed.'

100% with you on this - many of my 'guests' show like this, but does not having chat enabled (therefore I assume can't browse host either?) mean that these people definitely aren't sharing?
is TOTALLY WRONG and is purely based on your misunderstanding of how LW works.

Now, as far as I understand, someone can prevent their files from being shared but an outside P2P user would never know it.

Also, there is a facility within LW that should prevent "freeloaders" from downloading your files but, when I last aired the subject, I was informed that the anti-freeload facility either didn't work or didn't work too well.

So, the simple fact is that you cannot tell whether another P2P user has blocked all his files purely by what you see on your screen.



UK Bob

PS. Perhaps you can suggest that the LW developers enhance the freeloader facility so that "freeloaders" can be ostracised by the P2P community.
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