Tired Of One-Way File-Sharing
 

I have been using LimeWire or it's anscestors for years, and never had much of a complaint about the in****** of file sharing -- that is, until lately. More and more, it seems that people who are all too ready to download whatever they please from my Limewire Shared Folder have their own folder OFF or Set to Zero. Needless to say, these seem to be the same people who don't have their CHAT enabled either. Doan-chah-know...

So, today I figured that I ought to be able to "Block" a host who downloads dozens of files from me but is otherwise unavailable for sharing, chatting, etc. The problem is that I have never blocked a host (who is downloading files FROM me) before and I don't know how to do that.

Help would be greatly appreciated.

[email]****

or

PM here. Thanks.

--KK

You can block hosts. Right click on the host, and click block host.

Or else use Emule or Mirc to download stuff... I'm tired of phony limewire songs that are viruses

I know, nobody shares anymore lol

I wonder why ;)

Okay, let me get this straight:

When I "Monitor" who is downloading from my LimeWire Shared Folder, and I right click that downloading Host, the only options I see are: Kill Upload, Browse Host, or Chat. The people who do not share and do not chat have those options grayed out.

So... how do I block them?

Thanks.

Just because someone doesn't have chat enabled, does not mean they're not sharing. Likewise because you can't browse a host it does not mean they're not sharing. Browse host & chat are unreliable, always have been. You may be able to browse someone then 5 mins later you'll not be able to browse that same host. It's virtually impossible to tell if a host is sharing or not.

Chat itself is just so hit-and-miss that many people don't bother with having it enabled. It does not mean that someone isn't sharing if their chat's off.
Even in the event of someone really being a freeloader & you blocking their IP, the next day their dynamic IP address could change & you end up blocking some perfectly innocent sharer who happens to have adopted the IP;)

KK--I just checked and it looks like the option to block a host has been removed from current versions: it used to be quite useful.

I'm not sure of the reasons "block host" was removed, but it may have to do with the newer code. "Browse host" and "chat" involve old code, and I'm guessing they haven't been updated.

Since many (most) hosts use the newer code that works around routers and firewalls, it is not common to get a direct connection to a host. So, uploads that look like they are sharing nothing may just not be able to handle chats/browse hosts.

Still, if you really want to block an IP, copy it and manually add it to the filters in your options.

However, as Birdy says, browse/chat are unreliable, even for servents that can accept incoming connections.

(sorry Birdy--I was slow on the posting :) )

Points will be deducted from your score:D

Ah, yes. That explains why people keep telling me to click on a button that isn't there.

Thanks for the information. I will manually block the habitual offenders!

KK

Well because everyone is getting used to the leeching code... And noone feels like sharing because hackers can enter there computer while downloading.

You've got to be kidding right....
Karen Kraft do something with your freakin sig, I dont come on here to see that crap....:mad:

There are hackers and then there are hackers, the way I see it. The crappy ones can't take advantage of the fact that you are uploading OR downloading anything. The good ones don't need to have you doing either -- just have an available port.

I think it's just good old-fashioned B.S. control games: I will take from you and get a kick out of not giving anything in return. Sound familiar (don't get me started on that!)...

LOL.

Sorry.

It was a SigLine from a different forum. I will change my options to delete the offensive portions...

... unless you find my "Fertility Friend" objectionable.

Seriously: Thanks for the heads-up.

Karen.

Is there a way to keep someone from snooping around outside my shared folder?

Too Many Shared Folders?
 

How do you know that they are downloading files that are not from ONE OF your listed "shared" file folders? Check to be sure that you don't have more folders listed than the ones containing files you wish to share.

New to LW and already tired of one way sharing also
 

:( I just joined Limewire, shared (and still sharing) my files freely, especially as I have a fair amount of torrents for people who want whole albums etc. Don't know if I've offended some-one, but I now can't get remaining files I am searching for (tried 'resume' several times and at all times of day, just in case diff time zone) - I know there is at least one source because I have percentages of the files mostly. Is there any way I can tell if some-one has chosen to block me? If so, is there any way I can grovel and ask them to allow me back in? Don't know if it's offensive, but I did try to download a lot of files at once from one host - if I did offend it was out of ignorance.

Btw, already spotting some s**t files and marking as junk, but some do successfully masquerade as good files still.

Any help/advice appreciated.

Hi barbarian2

Contacting another host for a chat is unpredictable, but in your case is probably not necessary.

There is code that will automatically and temporarily (not sure how long, but less than a day, I think) that will return "banned greedy client" if too many files are requested at once, or repeatedly.

To avoid that, only choose 3 files at a time from one host. 3 is the default setting, and few people change it. Test by downloading 4 files from that host: if 3 start and the 4th doesn't, that probably means the host is using the default settings.

As for completing those existing downloads, just do a "find more sources", and/or repeat the search.

The advice I can give you is to not download more than one file from each host at a time. Especially if it's video, but also audio. And especially if they are rare files.

1. You get the file faster :) Downloading two will give you half the speed in most cases.

2. Host may go offline and you have several bits of files.

3. He may kill your upload for being greedy.

I have mine set on two, so if anyone tries for 3 files he is banned

To Share or Not to Share
 

Ummmm.... not to be rude, but isn't that what a "Shared" folder is for? Yeah, you can set it up so nobody can see anything in your Shared Folder, but then you would be downloading other people's files and not sharing any of your own. Why not simply transfer the files that you Do Not want to share out of your Shared Folder and into some other folder that you do not share online?

KK

Thank you
 

Thanks for the advice Stief and Sleepless - tried searching again for the one file I really really wanted, and its now disappeared completely! The only other one which is a shorter version that's available is also corrupted unfortunately - guess I'll have to go out and spend some money and buy the CD.

Which leads me to another (probably dim) question - if I buy this CD, how can I store the contents on my computer in my shared files as mp3's? I use Nero to burn, but don't think this software can help me in this respect...?

Anyway, thanks for helping a junior member out. I've learnt my lesson about downloading too many at once from one host and will be more polite in future!

Hello All Who Share:D

I am new to the forum & have been using LimeWire for about a month.

Thanks and Shouts to those who have made this possible.

I have been reading loads here lately; mostly about this topic as it is the only issue or problem i have had with P2P

I came to P2P with about 850 tunes half of which i have spent many hours recording from Vinyl and making mp3's the rest from my cd collection. I am Happy to share all of these with anyone who would return the favor i now have over 1000 that i Share (oh no have i been too greedy?) it seems there are some serious problems with greed here it is a deadly sin but someone who makes available all his music to others should hardly be considered greedy just because he has browsed a host (i browse somewone because i like what they have downloaded from me seems we at least Share the same taste in music, and liked what they have and want to have it as well. Yea i used to take what ever i liked from that host until i found out i was being judged as greedy by someone who thinks i am crossing the line by wanting to have more than three downloads) I set my bandwidth and max uploads to 20 per user thinking it was the right thing to do. I still think it's the right thing to do!!! I take what i like from a host as i don't know when he will be connected again. It seems logical not greedy!!! In fact i stay connected all day and it is normal to upload 150 or more tunes a day; these are not top 40 tunes either i still have 20 tunes that i try to download unsucessfully in that time as i lose the connection mysteriously. I feel my Limewire Pro is lame at automatically trying to find more sources. I have done a test and killed uploads within a minute they all seem to start again mine don't is this because everyone has disconnected or filtered me out. It seems like some Some days i get 0 complete unless i sit there and do endless searches that seem a total waste of time. I don't mind waiting a have patience but wasting my time like this ****** me off!!!

So now that i have vented i have a few requests.

Please rethink cutting off someone and setting low limits on users. There seem to be some problems with recognizing the peeps who share and those heathens who don't; and until there are solutions for this problem we should not be so judgemental.

LimeWire why can't you do something about this? With all you have done to make P2P possible it seems this should not be beyond your capabilities.

LimeWire why can't search restart automatically and constantally if the host is lost. If i have requested a download it is because i want it even if i lost the connection i didn't lose the desire to have that tune.

Hoping for Positive Change

Nero has the ability to extract as WAV files. I don't have a new version of Nero so I don't know it's full abilities. But there's plenty of free audio programs out there which will convert wav to mp3, etc. or extract from cd to mp3. I'd recommend extracting as wav first! Then converting that into mp3 or aac or ogg vorbis, or a compressed lossless format.

Deepend, the earlier versions of LW were better at restarting incomplete downloads than the newer versions. What I'd suggest is, if you find someone who has lots of files you're interested in, make a note of their ip address. Then at some later time you can attempt to direct connect to them. This is not always successful but can work. Of course it depends on whether they are online, & whether both you & them have free upload & downld slots & bandwidth, & both you & them are configured properly firewall-wise. Another way is searching the file topic again, browsing those with similar files. Of course, if you have search results handy, you can cancel the downld & re-select to downld from the search results. This sometimes restarts the downld.

As far as requeries go, LW tries to keep traffic to a minimum. Requeries (click on link). I believe that's one reason LW has reduced the ability of files to search for sources immediately after opening LW.

Thanks Lord of The Rings

Can't say i am really happy about the response; if it is true (i belive your correct) my going Pro to get those "better search results, turbo charge download speeds & connect to more sources" was uh Useless i see no positive change at all oh well such is life i am not as suprised as i am dissappointed.

I see what you mean about the load on the servers but it seems those who UPLOAD over 100MB per day could get a little priorety when they are only downloading 10MB I can't even check my email sometimes due to the upload drain at the same time nothing at all goin down seems a bit out of balance.

Typical of the real world; don't know why i expect things to be different here No Honor Among Thievs anymore hey.

About finding hosts that let me browse there are very few for whatever reasons and most of them seem to get the hump if you like their taste in music and want more than their quota. That is pathetic; i consider it a compliment when someone likes my taste in music.

I only hope people will reconsider the definition of share!!!

I find this thread interesting. I, too, am very, very new at this. I still don't fully understand how I can share (but I certainly intend to as soon as I do more research on how). I'll just keep reading and learning, and, hopefully not offend anyone in the process.
ldyj

Whilst the earlier versions might have had that small advantage, the newer versions definitely have a better (more effective) search. It was that fact that caused me to drop the earlier version & use the most recent full-time. I'm sorry to hear you've had such problems. I always consider it that some days are better than others. So I persist. Also some times of the day are better than others. The same applies with browsing & direct connecting. One moment you can't browse someone, 10 mins or an hr later I can. Free slots & bandwidth seems to also play a part in browsing. Also to expand on the example, one time I've browsed someone & found about 60 files, then 20 mins later browsed & they had over 600 or vice versa. :D So there's many factors at hand that affect these things.

ldyj see How to Share Folders (click on link)

Thanks for the info
 

Thanks for the info, Lord of the Rings. I did check and find that I have two files available for sharing on my system - one I created and one apparently created when I installed LimeWire.
LdyJ

:confused: :eek:

Very complicated all of it and i don't know what think because i don't know how it really works. I appreciate your imput.

I have just been messin around browsen hosts that were currently downloading off me i got through to 3 from 2 of them i started DL on 1 mp3 they started downloading chose another mp3 and at this time both tracks went to need more sources this same thing happened with 2 hosts (does that mean they filtered me out? they didn't go offline as they were still uploading from me one of them on 3 slots) the third has allowed me 3 DL so i figure he is cool but i am not pushing it due to the 3 default limit (which is forcing people who may not know how to allow more; to be stingy which sucks)

Anyone reading who doesn't know: tools/options/uploads/slots

Is safe to say those 2 hosts have set the limit to 1 and or derail anyone who tries more? If so they are gettin filtered.

Or is there some other reason for something like that to happen in which case i should not filter that user?

Thanks for the constructive input. :D

They might not have had free slots. It's hard to know. What was the connection quality when you browsed them? How many stars? 4 is generally the best & represents best chance of connecting & downlding off them.

You'll find it easier to browse people who show the chat icon enabled. Especially those uploading from you.

4 stars and they had chat enabled the guy uploading on 3 slots only had chat enabled on 2 slots it dissappeared on the third.

But why would my first slot stop downloading just cause he hit a limit shouldn't i maintain my slot on that DL and understandably wait for busy host on the other?

Thanks again you da man!!! if you like House music and chilled stuff let me know i will try to find out my ip and pm you or post it here (is there a reason i shouldn't post that here?)

Deepend

I had my uploads per host set to 5. The reason I had to make it two uploads is because of the ******* morons that will start downloading 3-4 700MB rare videofiles at the same time.

BTW I am not on all the time, but every day for 4-10 hours so everytime I start up Limewire people get 2 more files. And if you and others would follow my advise there would be no problem at all ;) Everyone is not on all the time. Some have monthly downloadlimits from their ISP's, Others have a unreliable connection or are badly set up or both. Some are using Laptops that they have to use for other things as well as P2P and a million other reasons. I bet 95% of your unsuccesful downloads are not from people killing your download, if not 99.9%.

Also uploadslots should be set so every slot can deliver at least 5 KB (others may disagree, but I don't really care) I have 50 KB up on 5 slots because of video

Check out the this thread. It explains how to best get succesfull musicdownloads

How to find music :)

Thanks Sleepless

Personally i only allow single tracks for upload as i don't know of any whole cd's worthy of the space on my hard drive. I try to be selective and weed out the filler. I don't do video or programs so i have no large files this is why i feel i can offer more slots. My bandwidth is set to max for uploads so anyone who can will turbo charge and move on. This is how i feel it should be i never liked speed limits being imposed on me i belive most traffic jams are caused by slow & cautious drivers:( :D

You say

"I bet 95% of your unsuccesful downloads are not from people killing your download, if not 99.9%"

How do you explain why my first slot would stop downloading just cause the host hit a limit shouldn't i maintain my slot on that DL and understandably wait for busy host on the other requested DL? Especially while he is still downloading the 3 slots from me!!! I bet if he knew he could get away with 20 slots from me he would be suckin it up:rolleyes: :mad:

Sorry i have much less faith is these ******* leeches than the platform:mad:

Unless you have a really fast connection 20 slots will be setting a speedlimit. Let's just as an example say you have 100 KB up then if all are filled you will be giving to 20 different uploads at only 5 KB/sec. If you set that on 10 they would be getting 10 KB/sec. Set it on 5, they get 20 etc. (Off course depending on their max download speed) but if one goes slow, the others will speed up in most cases.

I don't know you're speed, maybe it's more or maybe even less than that, so you do the math.

Regarding your download problem:

Set up can really have a lot to do with transfers being interrupted. Like in my case for some reason I can't get my router to portforward Limewire (not because of lack of trying) At least half of my uploads will get interrupted not because any limit has been reached, but rather because of bad setup from my side and maybe bad setup from the downloaders side. I notice often that people that do not have the chat enabled smiley a lot more often will get failed uploads from me than those who have it. Others may stay connected for my whole uptime without a single problem. My slots are almost always full from about 15 minutes from logging on to network and always close to max speed. If one fails another one starts. That could be a reason for some of your downloads failing, if there is a temporary interruption and then all slots + queue are full. A lot of people share video as well and all slots may then be in use for up to a day at a time if not more.

I think you use the worse case scenario to the max. I can not explain why this happened to you, I am not a programmer. I only say that you can't be sure that's the reason

Sleepless

Sleepless

In fact at this time i allow 30 slots total and 20 per person; neither limit has ever been hit to my knowledge but the max slots is automatically regulated by my bandwidth which i have set to max for DL & UL with dsl connection (i use cable/dsl cause i have an adsl line to be honest i don't know what T1 or T3 or Higher stand for; or how or if they apply to me but they don't seem to improve anything if i use them) the most i have ever seen in either direction has been 105kbs so i guess that is my limit i checked stats a few times and average was about 40kbs UL after being connected for a few hours in the monitor most UL's run between 5kbs and 12kbs but i have seen some hit 45kbs it's the same for DL's

It seems like nobody here really knows how these things work or how to optimize as the factors involved are vast and differ from P2P :eek:

So i have to use common sense until anyone can give a reasonable response to:

when downloading from a host my first slot would stop downloading even if the host hit a limit shouldn't i maintain my slot on that DL and understandably wait for busy host on the other requested DL? Especially while he is still downloading the 3 slots from me. Yea if they had interruptions at the same time i wouldn't be here looking for solutions but out of 150 - 200 uploads per day less than 20 don't complete. (most those 20 problably previewed the tracks and cancelled because they didn't like the music)

Those types of hosts (not just a host i can't browse as i realize their are lots of reasons this could happen) are gonna get filtered which i really wish i didn't have to do but until i get a logical response to this issue or LimeWire starts banning those who don't share (the later a much better option) that is the only way i can see keeping these****** out!!!

LimeWire should eliminate the option to limit upload slots and bandwidth manually and que UL's when each computer reaches it's limitations & require a min amount of files to be shared. Otherwise they leave the door open for freeloading Wankers:mad: If they did that they could eventually get rid of the kill upload & filter host options as well; and we could all be one Big Happy Family :D

Peace to those who Share :cool:

Hi all

Re upload speeds and T1 or T3: Find out what your ISP has allowed by doing several tests from a site that measures your uploads, like http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest

If you can manage 100 KB/s upload speed (1000 bps ) or better, then you can set as a T3 and reduce the upload bandwidth to the minimum of that scale, which is ~97 KB/s. For other upload speeds, try the different setting in the LW options and choose the one that has the range you can handle.

Re the slots: the magic words are "client side queueing." This means you could choose to download 500 files, but only one or two requests would be sent at a time (your machine would be polite and only send more when the others finished). That way, your LW would automatically honour whatever limit the other had set, and there would be no risk of being banned as "greedy" because LW would know not to ask for a harmful number. The person who asks for 60 of my pics (120 MB) would be treated the same as the person who wanted one video (120 MB). I would not want the person who asked for 60 videos to deny the people interested in the pics :) Client -side queueing would make fair sharing of upload slots and bandwith much fairer IMHO.

Please register and vote at https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/CORE-21 if you want this feature added to future LimeWires (the developers consider the votes when deciding what features to work on).

Cheers all.

Now that's a feature more needed then any other and I will gladly give it my vote.

They could almost call it Limewire 5 if that was done :)

Only a Hobo

If your bandwidth is never reached why don't you allow more slots and more per person? It's the BW that regulates the drain on your PC so then it would be first come first serve and the speedy ones would get out clearing the way for other traffic. Can you imagine all the checkouts in a store limiting your items how would you feel about that?

Thanks for your imput as i really want to know if their are stingy hosts out there or just what i would consider faults in the system. If it is the later then i would never ban anyone but with the situation i have described here

(When downloading from a host my first DL slot would stop downloading; even if i hit the hosts limit shouldn't i maintain my slot on that DL and understandably get a (wait for busy host or upload limit reached) on the other requested DL? Especially while he is still downloading the 3 slots from me meaning he is still active)

it seems like certian hosts derail me when i try a second DL and i can't get back on with that host. These hosts are gonna get banned from me until someone here can give me a logical reason for this to happen. I hate rules and think banning is **** but freeloaders are ******* leeches who need a fire under their ***. Sorry but limitting your upload traffic by any other means than bandwidth seems a bit harsh and although not the same as being a leech it still demonstrates excessive control.

Something that puzzels me i never get a banned for being greedy message; but i have never used anything under 4.10 do the newer versions still send this message if you are banned?


stief

That would be a very cool feature Thanks i have voted and hope more do. Have you or could you dedicate a thread to that feature and try to get more involved :D

I have done speed 2 tests and they vary UL 200kbps/300kbps DL 800kbps/900kbps but i couldn't find any that worked in my country and i was connected to LW don't know if it makes a difference. To be honest speed isn't my real issue it's incomplete downloads that are winding me up.

Thanks

stief

I feel client side queueing if added should replace the options to limit uploads though, allowing only your bandwidth settings to regulate the drain on your CPU

Only A Hobo

I hear where your commin from don't totally agree on everything but it sounds like you have more experience than me and with time i may see things clearer from your window.

It sounds like i might like to check out some of your sounds and do a little test as well i will send you a pm with my ip please browse & download push the limits mine is set at 20 it will be a good test you might find some more rare gems i consider my collection Deep & Wide

Peace Bro

OOPS you don't allow PM's if you send me one could i respond to you with my ip

I am going out but will stay connected all day Injoy

Deepend

I didn't notice this yesterday for some reason, but do you say that you have your uploadbandwidth set to unlimited ?

Then there is no wonder that you experience some problems downloading.

This will make your Limewire weird when you are uploading at max speed, because the program won't have bandwidth to send messages to the hosts that you're connected to. You should leave some space for Limewire to work with.

300kbps/8 = 37,5 KB/sec
200kbps/8 = 25 KB/sec

I would try maybe 28 KB/sec. You might see some improvement with Limewire then. Also 20 slots for that kind of bandwidth probably causes a lot of irritation to others when several people are downloading from you.

I have set it to 50 KB up when in fact I have 59-62 in speedtests. That allows me to play poker without much internet delay under usual circumstances. If I have many Downloads from many hosts then I set it to 45 KB up if I intend to play during uptime.

Yesterday was a long day of trial & error!!!

I learned a fair bit i didn't realize before about my use of and the limitations of LW so here are a few notes.

Firstly i learned that you really need to hang in there and be persistent. I was the type of user who thought i could select 20 or 30 mp3's for download and then do what ever i wanted come back a few hours later an have most of those tunes in my library WRONG. Especially if you are trying to get those tunes from 1 host as that was my preferred method only because this way i could browse hosts with similar musical tastes and get tunes i wouldn't even have a clue to search for. Still my favorite way to get new tunes, but requires me to be much more interactive. Yesterday i found a host who had a little over 6,500 (thanks dude you are stylin love your taste) tunes available he was set on T1 so i set mine to T1 as well with bandwidth slider on max for up & down. I did a few speed tests and had UL 200/300 & DL 800/900 All day i only downloaded from the 1 host if i was only trying 1 at a time they came in at 45/55kbs if i took 2 at a time 50/70kbs total was avg. If i took a third it would avg. 60/80 the fourth i basically got waiting on busy host or need more sources. This sometimes happened with only 3 slots but when it happened mostly with the 4th demand it usually affected all the slots so if i hadn't been there to cancel 1 or 2 of them and resume or research the others downloads would have stopped and maybe not restarted. I kept my eye on uploads with my bandwith slider on max and the speed test of 200/300 and max slots of 30 total and 20 per person speed was pretty much around 33kbs all day (Sleepless your calculations seem right on. Earlier i had mentioned hitting max's of over 100kbs this came from looking at stats and i now belive this stat refers to your setting rather than what has been achieved) with avg. 9 to 18 slots open. So no matter how high i put my settings at LW ran at my max potential.

At the end of like a 6 hour session with the 1 host things came to a crawl maybe he lowered his bandwidth or was getting more traffic than earlier i restarted LW thinking it was me and tryin to improve things but could not get connected with that host again :( :( :( i only made it to the F's searching by his artists but hey i got some really cool music and learned about some new artists that have had me buzzing with a total high ever since :D :D :D

At this time i did a bunch of searches for more obscure stuff i got from him i never found him again but along the way started several DL's from different hosts up to 15 slots at one time all working well and i was avg. 80/90kbs most of the time. I did have to resume or research some of them but for the most part they completed as long as i was not going over 2 slots per host.

Just a Hobo tried but failed to do a direct connect with an ip i got off one of the speed tests. Well i did another speed test from same server and they gave me a new ip so that file i sent you to search for might be the best way although there might be others with the same name if it is the file size i gave you it is me or someone who got it from me. Yesterday when you had sent the other pm's about not finding it i was already off line sorry i am connected now and will be for the next 15 hours so have another go.

Lord of The Rings i was offline by the time you tried to connect and the ip is unreliable so i will PM the file name and size to search for.

I will be connected but out so i can't interact with you guys til the tonite Good luck and hope your Happy in your Travels :D

The 6 Thousand MP3 Man you Rock and i will forever attempt to find you again.

Peace All

[QUOTE=Deepend]I did have to resume or research some of them but for the most part they completed as long as i was not going over 2 slots per host.

Deepend, how do you know that you're downloading only 2 slots per host? When I do a search, obviously I get a number of results, but there is no indication of who the host is unless I go into 'browse' host - don't really want to do this if the files I want are in the main search - I would have to go into each file and browse host to make sure I am not going over two slots?? :confused: Or am I being dim? Sorry, been off LW for a little while (hols) so only just catching up.

Any advice/guidance aprpreciated.

barbarian2

You are right about not knowing which hosts you are downloading from if you have done a general search. Another column in the download window that listed the hosts current ip would be really helpful :D

I do alot of searching by browse host. If i find a source for a track i like i then try browse host as there are good possibilities they might have more things that would interest me; artists i would not know of thus could not search for. It works the other way around too; if anybody downloads from me then i always try to browse them as it seems we share the same taste. Unfortunatly less than 10% of all browse attempts go through :( :( :( Even if the host has the smiley face meaning they have enabled browsing & chat. Nobody seems to know why this doesn't work well or at least better. If you ask me this really sucks because i love browse host as a methode of broadening my horizens.

To take it further a list of favorites that you could add hosts to would be way cool as well. If you or anyone else thinks so go here:

https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/GUI-6

register and vote on it don't forget to add a comment about adding fav. host as the original request is for fav. searches also a nice feature but without a feature like this for browse host finding a host you like a second time is not easily done if not impossible :( where as finding artists is EZ.

I wonder how many try browse host either not many or the failure rate is huge. 95% of my uploads each host is only hitting me up for 1 artist they take most of what i have from that artist but no other artists and i have enabled browse & chat.

Hope this helps and i hope you vote:)

Peace

..i'm a newbie, but aware of the poss probs with maxing d/ls and u/ls, but for me it goes like this

..if you have a song that interests me, by a band/singer etc that i like then chances are good you'l have others, some i haven't or more now, some i haven't even seen before, my connection rate goes up and down and periodically trees fall on the electric system so yup i browse, and take all i can, while i can

..the same applies for u/ls, as my library builds, i get to have the less common stuff, but my connection goes etc and trees fall etc , so take what you can, while you can

..for me, yes i'm tired of one way, me doing all the taking, cos it just doesn't feel right, and i thank those who don't cut me off and i apologise to those who get cut off by falling timber, try again later..

Yes, you make a good point, with respect to connection issues. The problem many of us face is that we want to share our collected, cleaned, verified, and sorted files, but we feel abused by people who expect to grab dozens of files from us while blocking ANY downloads of their own files. I just block them... forever.

I know how you feel Karen Kraft, right this minute I have one 'guest' uploading 4 files at once from me, and another uploading one file. But.... is'nt this what p2p is all about?

Admittedly, I get really really annoyed when all I am (and still am) doing is looking for one particular file at the moment - this morning I found another source, but it was downloading very very slowly (doesn't usually happen this way on my computer, generally very quick - maybe it's the source that's slow?) - then I got cut out at 52% :mad: and am stuck there. Same file from another source gave me 36% then stopped dead :mad: :mad: It's been like this for two weeks now, I just hope that one of them will stop blocking me, or be back on line (if that's the cause).

This still doesn't stop me from sharing though, I appreciate that people like the files I have and I would hate it if some-one blocked me from getting these files (actually a lot of them are torrents, which are MADE for people with patience - large files can sometimes take ages and ages to download!)

Well, do we p2p, or not2p, or what? :D

Sure! I don't block everyone who has nothing to share.

After all, everyone has to start someplace -- with few if any shared files. But when the same person has downloaded several dozen of my files and blocks all others 100% from their own files, it's not "sharing," it's "taking."

Look at it this way: If the vast majority of people took and very few gave, the entire p2p system would break down. Obviously, there is a difference between people who don't have an open port or who have some reason not to share at a particular time. This thread was really about people I would see, day after day, taking files from me and having neither their share folder available nor their chat enabled. That's not called p2p; that's called greed.

KK

Quoting you Karen Kraft 'This thread was really about people I would see, day after day, taking files from me and having neither their share folder available nor their chat enabled. That's not called p2p; that's called greed.'

100% with you on this - many of my 'guests' show like this, but does not having chat enabled (therefore I assume can't browse host either?) mean that these people definitely aren't sharing?

I am fairly new to Limewire, so please excuse if I'm being a bit dim - light will dawn eventually!

Misunderstandings about "Sharing"
 

Dear KK & B2

I am a long time user of LW Pro and, from what you have posted, have a major misunderstanding of how the P2P system works.

For example, you claim that you are being blocked by certain hosts, how do you know this? If you cannot browse someone's shared files that does not mean you are being "blocked" or that you cannot download from him/her.

I use a firewall (NPF 2005) to protect my PC from attack and, I understand, that this could prevent my shared files from being browsed but it does not prevent people from downloading files from me. I know this by checking the monitoring screen in LW whereby I can see which files my PC is uploading.

I do not have "chat" enabled, does this make me a "bad person" or someone that does not want to share his files? No, it does not, it is my personal choice not to have "chat" on my PC.

Therefore, KK your heartfelt quote: is TOTALLY WRONG and is purely based on your misunderstanding of how LW works.

Now, as far as I understand, someone can prevent their files from being shared but an outside P2P user would never know it.

Also, there is a facility within LW that should prevent "freeloaders" from downloading your files but, when I last aired the subject, I was informed that the anti-freeload facility either didn't work or didn't work too well.

So, the simple fact is that you cannot tell whether another P2P user has blocked all his files purely by what you see on your screen.



UK Bob

PS. Perhaps you can suggest that the LW developers enhance the freeloader facility so that "freeloaders" can be ostracised by the P2P community.