Thanks Only a hobo, for suggestions, taken you up on it, working on Hijackthis log files as we speak, good site too, thanks,tried blacklight root scan too, nothing on it,counterspy found some traces of hijack and a couple of things that nothing else did, hasnt changed much tho,if i discover anything will let forum know. out of interest, when LWire has an error, you have the chance to submit error, by clicking 'Send' when it froze this time before reinstall, it saved a 'Log' somewhere on C drive, no 'Send' option, is there an explanation for this? and I cant find the saved log !! it was a different window, one iv'e not seen before?
Thanks for reply, I thought everyone had gone home for Christmas.
Have a great christmas one and all,I'll limp on until things get better !
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