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 limewire is not starting! I tried downloading limewire again, but I still keep getting this error message: LimeWire version 4.12.6 Java version 1.6.0_03 from Sun Microsystems Inc. Windows XP v. 5.1 on x86 Free/total memory: 3075392/4128768 com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.GUILoader$StartupFailed Exception: invalid update.ver at com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.GUILoader.sanityCheck(G UILoader.java:278) at com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.GUILoader.load(GUILoade r.java:48) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Nativ e Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknow n Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Un known Source) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) at com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.Main.main(Main.java:44) STARTUP ERROR! -- listing properties -- WINDOW_Y=0 FORCE_IP_ADDRESS=true WINDOW_X=0 PORT=12097 TOTAL_CONNECTION_TIME=321515502 RUN_ON_STARTUP=false UPDATE_DELAY=25200001 UPDATE_GIVEUP_FACTOR=49 FILTER_HASH_QUERIES=true UPNP_IN_USE=true INSTALLED=true UI_LIBRARY_TREE_DIVIDER_LOCATION=122 FORCED_IP_ADDRESS_STRING=76.241.110.235 AVERAGE_UPTIME=295210 TOTAL_UPTIME=2066472 MAX_UPLOAD_BYTES_PER_SEC=43 MIN_CONNECT_TIME=4 CONTENT_AUTHORITIES=fserv1.limewire.com:10000 COUNTRY= LAST_SHUTDOWN_TIME=1204663227378 APP_WIDTH=1024 SESSIONS=8 UPDATE_MIN_ATTEMPTS=1999 SHOW_TOTD=false MAX_SKIP_ACKS=2 MAX_LEAVES=40 FORCED_PORT=12097 LAST_ACCEPTABLE_BUG_VERSION=4.13.15 FRACTIONAL_UPTIME=5.017196E-5 UPDATE_RETRY_DELAY=1800001 CONNECTION_SPEED=350 LAST_EXPIRE_TIME=1204318848039 TOTAL_CONNECTIONS=66 DIRECTORY_FOR_SAVING_FILES=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\D... MAX_DOWNLOAD_BYTES_PER_SEC=179 UPDATE_DOWNLOAD_DELAY=14400001 RUN_ONCE=true AVERAGE_CONNECTION_TIME=4871447 APP_HEIGHT=734 EVER_SUPERNODE_CAPABLE=true EVIL_HOSTS=a DAAP_ENABLED=false MAX_SIM_DOWNLOAD=8 DIRECTORIES_TO_SEARCH_FOR_FILES=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\D... LAST_GWEBCACHE_FETCH_TIME=1161556298011 UNSET_FIREWALLED_FROM_CONNECTBACK=true EVER_ACCEPTED_INCOMING=true CLIENT_ID=75EF3B759F89552C6AFB7E1BCDDF4F00 PARALLEL_SEARCH=10 CONTENT_MANAGEMENT_ACTIVE=true IDLE_CONNECTIONS=2 FILES IN CURRENT DIRECTORY: C:\Program Files\LimeWire\.NetworkShare LAST MODIFIED: 1204663258159 SIZE: 0 C:\Program Files\LimeWire\clink.jar LAST MODIFIED: 1156261595138 SIZE: 307949 C:\Program Files\LimeWire\commons-httpclient.jar LAST MODIFIED: 1156261596857 SIZE: 459988 C:\Program Files\LimeWire\commons-logging.jar LAST MODIFIED: 1156261597669 SIZE: 59154 C:\Program Files\LimeWire\commons-net.jar LAST MODIFIED: 1156261599232 SIZE: 355370 C:\Program Files\LimeWire\COPYING LAST MODIFIED: 1202506379343 SIZE: 18349 C:\Program Files\LimeWire\daap.jar LAST MODIFIED: 1156261600826 SIZE: 388504 C:\Program Files\LimeWire\data.ser LAST MODIFIED: 1202506379437 SIZE: 358 C:\Program Files\LimeWire\GenericWindowsUtils.dll LAST MODIFIED: 1150901473250 SIZE: 12279 C:\Program 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 Try updating your Java, yours is outdated and all errors there are associated with Java First uninstall any Java version you might have installed using add remove programs. then download and install the offline installer from here: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/downlo...BundleId=18713 |
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