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Hi. I just wanted to thank you for the Spanish version. Yes, it has a some gramatical and spelling mistakes, and 1/3 of the program is not translated, but at least it's something.

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Yes, it has a some gramatical and spelling mistakes, and 1/3 of the program is not translated, but at least it's something.

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I bet ursula made the translation...

Is there a German version?

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Dodgy translations are part of the fun of international versions of software. I've had many a laugh at versions of software where the programmer has obviously looked up a bilingual dictionary for each individual word. Even non-English versions from the almighty Microsoft (who you would have thought could afford reasonably competent translators), have many words and phrases that are clearly directly translated from English.

It's all part of a sinister plot to make people think that they're getting something in their own language, when it's actually slowly but surely brainwashing them with [directly translated or untranslated] English phraseology.

I'm sure both of you will have noticed this in Germany and Argentina (I certainly do in Spain) where there's so much American and British material on TV (badly dubbed or subtitled) and on the net, that people have started adopting Spanglish or Deunglish in normal language. So the plot is working!

Just wait until the Chinese get a stranglehold on the world economy. Then it'll be really fun! Though Paradog won't have any problems.

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Is there a German version?
No, only Spanish

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the programmer has obviously looked up a bilingual dictionary for each individual word.
That's right. For example, the word fichero does not sound good, we use here archivo. Repetir buscar is gramatically wrong, it should be Repetir búsqueda or Buscar de nuevo.

Hehe, I even made mistakes here

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OKAY YA CREEPS !

You asked for it !

Going to get 'igalan' on here to talk with you about your wild crazy guesses and some valid points slipped in through the cracks... (cranks?).

backmann-- re: fichero vs. archivo... sure... M$ español may have one idea, but remember that this was done in 'proper' castellano.
On the Repetir búsqueda, I suppose I agree with you...
But, please understand that the entire work was done under enormous time pressure... ARBITRARY time pressure, as well !

The other comments above can be ignored as they are based in ignorance...

But for Kath, who knows the score... 'igalan' did what you see in 8 DAYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And he has a wife, family and job...
Any of you beat that ?
No.

backmann, please, your 'input' is much desired re: the translation... But, I cannot understand why you say it is only 1/3 ???
There are very few menus 'missing' ! Plus, the differences between castellano and 'americano' can be great... Your comments are most appreciated.

Enuf... 'igalan' will be here to discuss it with those who are able to discuss things such as this type of work...
Which, for sure, is not many of you...

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backmann, please, your 'input' is much desired re: the translation... But, I cannot understand why you say it is only 1/3 ???
For example, all the options in the last tab f the preferences are still in English. I don't remember much now (I have Shareaza closed for the moment), but I remember seeing somewhere a mix of English and Spanish also.

About the fichero thing, I still believe you should use archivo. It's the most accurate translation for file, and it's the one that is used by Microsoft so it will sound a thousand times better.

If you need help with the translation let me know, I'd be happy to help.

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Basically, if there is a problem with the language files, please edit them or correct the translator on the Skins forum on the Shareaza forum. Or you can e-mail mike at mike@shareaza.com, or me at chris@aroze.com

We'll be glad to change the language skins if there is any mis-translations.
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Hi!

I did the translation . I know it's still not complete (I'm still working on it). I also know some words may not soung good to everyone ("fichero" vs "archivo", "vecino", "caudal" and some other words). We can discuss them, I'm open to suggestions.

Please, keep in mind this:

1.- First, I didn't do a blind translation using some translator. There is a lot of work behind this translation. And I did this work in little time so it was available when Shareaza 1.6.0.0 was released. I'm native, and I'm technical in computing (I mean that it's my job ) .

2.- There are some restrictions in a translation like this. First and more important is that English words are usually shorter, which means that many times you can't use the best word or sentence, because there isn't enough room... As simple as that.

3.- Some words have multiple transations in Spanish, and some others don't have any tranlsation at all...

Now:

Backmann: I accept your suggestion, I will use "archivo" instead of "fichero". "Repetir buscar" is not correct, I know, but on some places there wasn't room for "Repetir búsqueda" which is just a bit longer. I'll try to use this alway that's possible, or you prefer something like "Rep. búsqueda"?

Also, some parts of the program can't be translated like advanced options, some columns and a few more things.

Kath: Thanks for your commets But I'm not a professional translator! 8)

Ursula: Also thank you! I don't know what would I do without you
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By the wak, backmann, your tagline is far from correct!
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