Connection

[foolofthehill]

Okay, first I'd like to say hello because I'm new here and this is my first post. In case I'll do something wrong, blame me, but don't forget to tell me how to make it better........

I've been reading here since 4 days in search of a solution to my connection problem which has suddenly occured, with both FW and LW. I pretty much appreciate the work that you volunteers put into this forum; my deepest respect !!!

Now to my problem. Having used LW and later FW for quite some time, I'm suddenly unable to get a stable connection to the network of gnutella. The problem started after a crash of FW and a error message, which my wife unfortunately didn't write down for me for review. Both clients, LW and FW, (of course, not used at the same time) try to connect, but stay put at 'starting connecting' with some rare occasions of 'poor connection' or even (like it would be my birthday) with 'fair connection'.
Before the above mentioned crash there has been no change on my system configuration (means, none of my other running programs has ever interfered with LW or FW.

Before I've decided to post here, I've run all possible tests and implemented all suggested solutions without any success.
To some of the requested tests by members of the forum here I'll post the results:

Speed test:

Last Result:
Download Speed: 426 kbps (53.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 196 kbps (24.5 KB/sec transfer rate)

The www3.limewire.com:6346 test:
The test worked

The bug report test:
Detail: Example

-- listing session information --
Current thread: AWT-EventQueue-0
Active Threads: 28
Uptime: 1:05:19
Is Connected: false
Number of Ultrapeer -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0
Number of Ultrapeer -> Leaf Connections: 0
Number of Leaf -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0
Number of Old Connections: 0
Acting as Ultrapeer: false
Acting as Shielded Leaf: false
Number of Active Uploads: 0
Number of Queued Uploads: 0
Number of Active Managed Downloads: 0
Number of Active HTTP Downloaders: 0
Number of Waiting Downloads: 16
Received incoming this session: true
Number of Shared Files: 0
Guess Capable: true
Received Solicited UDP: true
SIMPP version: 46
Port Stable: true
FWT Capable: true
Last Reported Port: 35248
External Port: 35248
IP Pongs Received: 99

-- listing threads --
JmDNS.RecordReaper: 1
HttpClient-ReferenceQueueThread: 1
ConnectionFetcher: 9
NIODispatcher: 1
QueryUnicaster: 1
Java2D Disposer: 1
TimerQueue: 1
Thread-8: 1
MulticastService: 1
Acceptor: 1
HttpClient-IdleConnectionThread: 1
AWT-Shutdown: 1
AWT-Windows: 1
AWT-EventQueue-0: 1
Timer-0: 1
QRPPropagator: 1
DestroyJavaVM: 1
DaapServerThread: 1
HTTPAcceptor: 1
JmDNS.SocketListener: 1


-- listing properties --
FILTER_HASH_QUERIES=true
APP_HEIGHT=728
FRACTIONAL_UPTIME=9.105489E-5
LAST_EXPIRE_TIME=1143217059406
SESSIONS=2
LAST_ACCEPTABLE_BUG_VERSION=4.10.10
UPDATE_DOWNLOAD_DELAY=10000000
RUN_ONCE=true
COUNTRY=
MIN_CONNECT_TIME=7
LANGUAGE=en
CLIENT_ID=10FFD5A75CD22DE27F6D50656A07D300
LAST_SHUTDOWN_TIME=1143217056442
EVER_ACCEPTED_INCOMING=true
IDLE_CONNECTIONS=2
TOTAL_UPTIME=5093
PORT=35248
AVERAGE_UPTIME=2546
UNSET_FIREWALLED_FROM_CONNECTBACK=true
RUN_ON_STARTUP=false
UPDATE_GIVEUP_FACTOR=24
FLUSH_DELAY_TIME=256
APP_WIDTH=1024
INSTALLED=true
MAX_SIM_DOWNLOAD=8
LAST_GWEBCACHE_FETCH_TIME=1143217154893
CONNECTION_SPEED=350
UPDATE_DELAY=252000020

Regarding my system:
1. OS version? (Eg: Windows 98)
XP Pro SP2
2. What firewalls you have?
Windows built-in
3. How much ram?
1.024 GB
4. Hard Disk space available?
Drive C: 13.7 GB, Drive D: 9.27 GB
5. Connection type? (Eg: dialup, broadband, cable, etc.)
ADSL 512kb/s by TT&T Thailand
6. Modem & router brand name & model numbers?
King Com ADSL USB Modem - Conexant AccessRunner USB ADSL WAN Adapter
7. Where are you trying to connect from (home, school, work, etc.)?
from home
8. What version of Limewire (LW) & Java do you have? (Go to LW's menu Help>About LW...) Will show both LW & Java version.
LW 4.9.23 PRO, FW 4.9.37 & 4.9.10, Java 1.5.0_05 and 06 (had the newest version installed but switched back to the 05 since the 06 didn't seem to be as stable as the 05)
9. Who is your ISP provider? ( AOL/MSN/Comcast/Tiscal)
TT&T Max Net
10. Are you sharing the connection with other computers or p2p sharing programs? If yes, please give details of set up.
No sharing with anyone, though I've installed LW and FW, I never run both at the same time.

Besides those information, I've been running 'Peer Guard' and the Firewall from XP without any problems up until that crash. I regularily check my system with AVG Anti Virus, Ad-Aware, Spybot, Spy Sweeper, Bug Doctor and Error Doctor. Besides, I'm running the BOINC client with Einstein, Seti, Climate and LHC @home. I had installed the enigma client for a short time but uninstalled it some time before that crash.

Any advice from your side would be very much appreciated.
Cheers
Mario

[foolofthehill]

For the one who might find some time to look at this (thanks in advance) I have to extent some of the stats I gave yesterday ('cause, I'm not sure whether I posted the 'Bug report' from LW or FW), so I'll post both reports here (surprisingly, this time the reception states "false" whereas yesterday it said 'true')

From LW:

Detail: Example

-- listing session information --
Current thread: AWT-EventQueue-0
Active Threads: 30
Uptime: 1:15
Is Connected: false
Number of Ultrapeer -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0
Number of Ultrapeer -> Leaf Connections: 0
Number of Leaf -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0
Number of Old Connections: 0
Acting as Ultrapeer: false
Acting as Shielded Leaf: false
Number of Active Uploads: 0
Number of Queued Uploads: 0
Number of Active Managed Downloads: 0
Number of Active HTTP Downloaders: 0
Number of Waiting Downloads: 16
Received incoming this session: false
Number of Shared Files: 0
Guess Capable: false
Received Solicited UDP: true
SIMPP version: 3
Port Stable: true
FWT Capable: true
Last Reported Port: 6346
External Port: 6346
IP Pongs Received: 17

-- listing threads --
JmDNS.RecordReaper: 1
HttpClient-ReferenceQueueThread: 1
check for live connection: 1
ConnectionFetcher: 10
NIODispatcher: 1
QueryUnicaster: 1
Java2D Disposer: 1
TimerQueue: 1
Thread-8: 1
MulticastService: 1
Acceptor: 1
HttpClient-IdleConnectionThread: 1
AWT-Shutdown: 1
AWT-Windows: 1
AWT-EventQueue-0: 1
Timer-0: 1
QRPPropagator: 1
DestroyJavaVM: 1
DaapServerThread: 1
HTTPAcceptor: 1
JmDNS.SocketListener: 1


-- listing properties --
MAX_SIM_DOWNLOAD=8
LAST_GWEBCACHE_FETCH_TIME=1143289806661
TOTAL_UPTIME=1250
AVERAGE_UPTIME=1250
INSTALLED=true
CONNECTION_SPEED=350
LANGUAGE=en
COUNTRY=
CLIENT_ID=63CF9D1AF985D99B761CBB04D7DBDB00
LAST_EXPIRE_TIME=1143289772372
RUN_ON_STARTUP=false


From FW:

Detail: Example

-- listing session information --
Current thread: AWT-EventQueue-0
Active Threads: 28
Uptime: 1:17
Is Connected: false
Number of Ultrapeer -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0
Number of Ultrapeer -> Leaf Connections: 0
Number of Leaf -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0
Number of Old Connections: 0
Acting as Ultrapeer: false
Acting as Shielded Leaf: false
Number of Active Uploads: 0
Number of Queued Uploads: 0
Number of Active Managed Downloads: 0
Number of Active HTTP Downloaders: 0
Number of Waiting Downloads: 16
Received incoming this session: false
Number of Shared Files: 0
Guess Capable: false
Received Solicited UDP: true
SIMPP version: 46
Port Stable: true
FWT Capable: true
Last Reported Port: 35248
External Port: 35248
IP Pongs Received: 13

-- listing threads --
JmDNS.RecordReaper: 1
MessageDispatch: 1
ConnectionFetcher: 9
NIODispatcher: 1
QueryUnicaster: 1
UDPHostRanker: 1
Java2D Disposer: 1
TimerQueue: 1
Thread-8: 1
MulticastService: 1
Acceptor: 1
AWT-Shutdown: 1
AWT-Windows: 1
AWT-EventQueue-0: 1
Timer-0: 1
QRPPropagator: 1
DestroyJavaVM: 1
DaapServerThread: 1
HTTPAcceptor: 1
JmDNS.SocketListener: 1


-- listing properties --
FILTER_HASH_QUERIES=true
APP_HEIGHT=728
FRACTIONAL_UPTIME=0.010327467
LAST_EXPIRE_TIME=1143217059406
SESSIONS=4
LAST_ACCEPTABLE_BUG_VERSION=4.10.10
INCOMPLETE_PURGE_TIME=360
UPDATE_DOWNLOAD_DELAY=10000000
RUN_ONCE=true
COUNTRY=
MIN_CONNECT_TIME=7
LANGUAGE=en
CLIENT_ID=10FFD5A75CD22DE27F6D50656A07D300
LAST_SHUTDOWN_TIME=1143289767284
FREELOADER_FILES=25
FREELOADER_ALLOWED=10
IDLE_CONNECTIONS=2
PORT=35248
TOTAL_UPTIME=8058
AVERAGE_UPTIME=2014
UNSET_FIREWALLED_FROM_CONNECTBACK=true
RUN_ON_STARTUP=false
UPDATE_GIVEUP_FACTOR=24
FLUSH_DELAY_TIME=256
APP_WIDTH=1024
INSTALLED=true
MAX_SIM_DOWNLOAD=8
LAST_GWEBCACHE_FETCH_TIME=1143217154893
CONNECTION_SPEED=350
UPDATE_DELAY=252000020

By the way, I know that LW runs on port 6346 and LW on 35248, however, I've disabled my built-in firewall as well my Peer Guard and any other program except my AVG Anti virus. Oh yeah, and before I forget it, when I collected my bug report from LW, I got the client connection up till 'good connection' (unfortunately only for 45 sec. - 1 min.) but when trying to start one of the waiting downloads it said 'waiting for stable connection'...........

Any ideas....??
Mario

[foolofthehill]

Okay, I know I might become annoying for you, but now something very strange happened. While I was reading myself through the port forwarding and router stuff once again, my FW ( I know that's here the LW forum, but I've got the problem with both) suddenly got a 'excellent connection' without me doing anything, no change on config. or system. I therefore post here now the 'bug report' while the client is running.

From FW

Detail: Example

-- listing session information --
Current thread: AWT-EventQueue-0
Active Threads: 19
Uptime: 54:37
Is Connected: true
Number of Ultrapeer -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0
Number of Ultrapeer -> Leaf Connections: 0
Number of Leaf -> Ultrapeer Connections: 3
Number of Old Connections: 0
Acting as Ultrapeer: false
Acting as Shielded Leaf: true
Number of Active Uploads: 0
Number of Queued Uploads: 0
Number of Active Managed Downloads: 0
Number of Active HTTP Downloaders: 0
Number of Waiting Downloads: 16
Received incoming this session: true
Number of Shared Files: 0
Guess Capable: true
Received Solicited UDP: true
SIMPP version: 46
Port Stable: true
FWT Capable: true
Last Reported Port: 35248
External Port: 35248
IP Pongs Received: 281

-- listing threads --
JmDNS.RecordReaper: 1
MessageDispatch: 1
NIODispatcher: 1
QueryUnicaster: 1
udp failovers: 1
Java2D Disposer: 1
TimerQueue: 1
Thread-8: 1
MulticastService: 1
Acceptor: 1
AWT-Shutdown: 1
AWT-Windows: 1
AWT-EventQueue-0: 1
Timer-0: 1
QRPPropagator: 1
DestroyJavaVM: 1
DaapServerThread: 1
HTTPAcceptor: 1
JmDNS.SocketListener: 1


-- listing properties --
FILTER_HASH_QUERIES=true
APP_HEIGHT=728
FRACTIONAL_UPTIME=0.010327467
LAST_EXPIRE_TIME=1143217059406
SESSIONS=4
LAST_ACCEPTABLE_BUG_VERSION=4.10.10
INCOMPLETE_PURGE_TIME=360
UPDATE_DOWNLOAD_DELAY=10000000
RUN_ONCE=true
COUNTRY=
MIN_CONNECT_TIME=7
LANGUAGE=en
CLIENT_ID=10FFD5A75CD22DE27F6D50656A07D300
LAST_SHUTDOWN_TIME=1143289767284
FREELOADER_FILES=25
EVER_ACCEPTED_INCOMING=true
FREELOADER_ALLOWED=10
IDLE_CONNECTIONS=2
PORT=35248
TOTAL_UPTIME=11250
AVERAGE_UPTIME=2812
UNSET_FIREWALLED_FROM_CONNECTBACK=true
RUN_ON_STARTUP=false
UPDATE_GIVEUP_FACTOR=24
FLUSH_DELAY_TIME=256
APP_WIDTH=1024
INSTALLED=true
MAX_SIM_DOWNLOAD=8
LAST_GWEBCACHE_FETCH_TIME=1143217154893
CONNECTION_SPEED=350
UPDATE_DELAY=252000020

Since I suspect the bug (it seems not to be the ISP who blocks the client) to appear again, there might be some clever geek here who can figure out the issue.

Cheers
Mario

I've just shut down FW and tried LW in the hope that it also would connect. Unfortunately, it doesn't. Then going back to FW I got an instant (2-3 sec.) connection stating 'excellent connection'............for now I have to assume that the bug is with LW.
Anyone interested in fixing it? Maybe LOTHR??

[foolofthehill]

Hmm, I feel a bit confused, not to say disappointed, by the fact that I haven't gotten any response to my posts from those who usually take on problems of non-geeks like me here in this forum (such as LOTR or Birdy).
Of course I do understand that your volunteered time here is limited and you might have your system in dealing with the many requests you get here on a daily basis (Something I actually admire, your handling of the many posts).
On the other hand, even guys like 'videoman882' who rather insult you than show respect, receive a response of some kind ( though, no need to responds in such a way, unless I've -unintentionally- overstepped a certain line).
My initial problem might appear to be solved for now, since I've managed to connect at least with FW. However, it doesn't change the fact that the occurance of my above described problem (at least with LW) is quite strange considering the fact that it disappeared by itself for FW, yet still exists with LW.
So besides attempting to satisfy my curiosity (something I actually thought rests inside you guys as well) how the problem started in the first place, I feel a certain need for finding those answers in case the situation occures again. And of course, others might benefit from this exchange of experience as well.
Cheers
Mario

[foolofthehill]

Oops......I've just read about the problem with post replies........that might have been the reason, though I've seen my own replies poping up in the thread as well as the newest responses from LOTR and birdy......

[Lord of the Rings]

I've had some time off from the forum due to the forum problems & other reasons. Sorry we have been slow to get back to you. We're normally more prompt in our responses.

Yes the 1st bug report was your FW. I guessed that whilst 1st looking at it or suspected it should I say.

Bug reports are a little meaningless if the program isn't connected. And unfortunately that seems to be the case for the LW report.

What I'd suggest is what you may have or probably already tried. That is deleting your LW preferences. Remember, that if you used an earlier version of LW then your prefs will be in a different location to the later versions. So check both step 2 & 3 here to see if you can locate the LW prefs folder: Fixes for Limewire

If you still can't connect, try setting LW to a different port. Try one between these 49152 - 65535 as these are safer to use. Change both the connection & listening port. If you use UPnP setting, then leave the connection port as is. Make any relevant changes in your firewall for this new port & keep 4346 also clear for LW to use.

Another option if you haven't already tried it is reinstalling LW. If you have Pro, I presume you still have the installer backed up somewhere.

[Lord of the Rings]

Originally sent by foolofthehill in pm
First I once again deleted the .limewire folder, which wasn't successful, then I changed the port settings in Lime Wire option and in my Firewall, again not success. Then I uninstalled lime wire and reinstalled it, again no success. I then again deleted the preference folder and again changed to other port settings, again a big No-No... ....except, that the Firewall sign next to the connection bars disappeared, yet the connection remained at 'starting connecting (I specifically waited more then 30 min.). I also tried to disable any program which might block Lime Wire, such as the firewall and and my peer guardian. Again without success. I then closed Lime Wire completely and opened FW as well as my firewall and my peer guardian. In less then 30 sec. I got an excellent connection. So I closed that one and opened again LW, changing the port settings to the ones of FW (of course I got the message that this port was already in use of another device), so I went up one number and later, in another attempt, down one number.......nada, niente....nothing.
Looks like this is a tricky one, don't you think.....?!?
At the moment the FW is open and downloads two files at 50kb/s and uploads at 10 Kb/s, with firewall and peer guardian and spy sweeper enabled. At the same time my Boinc is crushing some datas from Seti@home.
I hope you're not in the mood to give up on this one.. ....because I ain't !!! ...... Any idea what's next to do????

Thanks for your pm. BTW you can use the same port for LW as FW. But not at the same time. But that also depends on your set up. If you're manually port forwarded then I don't think you can unless I'm mistaken (possibly.) If you already used FW in a session, you might have to reboot to use LW with the same port for it to allow you. But I'm not sure about that. It would be curious to find out if it works or not. That's interesting that the firewall icon disappears after you change the listening port. (I don't suppose your isp is filtering specifically LW.)

I'm just wondering, are you still valid for Pro updates? It might be worth updating to 4.10.9 or the beta 4.11.0

There's also the Java 1.6 beta available if you'd like to try it out. I know it works well for another member of the forums. http://java.sun.com/javase/6/download.jsp JRE "Offline" version which is 15.72 MB

[Lord of the Rings]

Originally sent by foolofthehill in pm

It's about time to announce some success to you guys.

Following the advice of LOTR, I finally got LW back on track (I'm crossing my fingers that this will stay that way).
So, what did I do?!?
First I rebooted my computer. Then I deleted my " .limewire " folder, which is located in the same folder as the 'WINDOWS' folder (and yes, the 'point' in front of the word " limewire " is part of the folder name, though I knew this before, but have seen that others here on the forum do not know).
Then I opened Lime Wire and went through the prompts, which will pop up after you've deleted the " .limewire " folder. In those prompts I confirmed ( clicked " Next" ) the chosen language (in my case English), confirmed the connection speed (in my case dsl ), confirmed the folder in which the downloaded files will be stored and shared, un-marked the box when ask about automatic start up (or is it automatic connection ?), confirmed two times the reference to possible firewall pop-ups (though none of them occured at that stage), marked "No" when asked whether I would like to let Lime Wire search my computer for possible files to share, until I reached the final "OK" and then Lime Wire opened. When I saw that it tried to start connecting, I clicked on "file" (located in the upper left corner of the Lime Wire window) and chose "disconnect". I then went to " Tools " (which is located on the same line than " File" - the fifth word from left), clicked on it and chose " Options". On the left side of the opening window I went down until I found the word " Advanced" (actually the last word in the list there). I clicked on it and a new row of words appeared ( the words are : Preferencing, Firewall Config, Proxy, System Startup ). I then clicked on the word " Firewall Config ", which caused the right side of the same window to change its appearance. In the field which says " listen on port " (which is on the upper right of that window) I typed the number "35248" (which matches the number I have already applied to my firewall settings).

In the lower part of the same window I made sure that the " Use UPnP (Recommended) " has a green point in front of it. Then I pressed "apply" (which is located in the lower right corner of the same window) and then 'OK' (located on the same line as "Apply" - the third word from right), which caused the window to close. Then I closed Lime Wire again (completely, means also the in the system tray of my computer - on the same line as the clock of my computer). Well, then I opened Lime Wire again and gave it some 5 minutes to try to connect. And now I am connected again - Turbo Charged. The only weired thing is, when writing all this I looked once more on the Firewall Config in Lime Wire and found that the ' listen on port' is back to the number "6346".......
Oh, before I forget it, while doing all of the above, I had my 'Peer Guardian 2' disabled. Now I have enabled it again and do not have any problems with it running.
You know, when you write such a long extensive explaination of 'how to do it', then you start to understand and to appreciate the great work that guys like 'Lord Of The Ring", 'Birdy", "et voilà" and all the others here do, on a daily basis, voluntarily.
So, thanks pals for being here and sharing your knowledge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mario