right now im downloading the free avg.. i downloaded the non free one... finally got that one to work by deleting everything associated with grisoft.com and limewire is working so far... im going to take off aol's stuff cause it wasnt catching certain things.. and ive heard avg is tons better... so ill give that a try... i also have windows firewall... and spyware thing... i wish windows had a virus thing.. that way it was all windows and was alot easier... i also had norton before.. and that was the best thing i ever had for free.. but now i have to pay for it.. so we will see how avg does... **** dialup is slow..