At this point I'm working very hard to keep track of which fix is which (kinda like "who's on first...") The limewire folder in my applications has nothing in it. It has always been empty each time I've tried the delete in the various versions I tried. Installers I have on file are Limewire 5.2.8.0 & 4.18.8.1; and Java 5.0.110.3 & 6.0.140.8. If you'd be so kind as to repeat for me a "step1, step 2, etc." so I can sort out exactly what I need to try. Thanks!