Okay, let me make sure I understand. I can reinstall LW without have to first uninstall it? I printed off instructions in the post about fixes when LW isn't working that say to first uninstall LW using the LW uninstaller and then reinstall using the offline installer. I went back to Java 5 update 12 and also deleted my LW preference folder and ended up losing my downloaded themes, which really sucks because I can't seem to download them back, not in LW anyway and I don't do the zipped file thingy from the interent option because Zips make me want to pull my hair out. None of this speeded anything up and I still have the brick wall but I am able to download some songs but not like before with the 4.12 version. I found out that my personal download/update page I have with my Pro version does have the option to install earlier versions so I want to reinstall the 4.12 version and I'll just have to bloody well get used to not having that neat little search function for the library anymore but it beats not being able to get much to look in the library for in the first place. I'm afraid to totally uninstall limewire first because I don't want to lose anything else. I don't know why I lost the themes. Couldn't I just install the other version first and then unintall the old one? But I think LW automatically uninstalls the older version when you're installing the new one. And why is it so important to use an offline version? I apologize if I've asked anything that has already been answered somewhere on this forum but after 2-3 days of almost contant searching in here and messing around with LW, I just couldn't read anymore posts. Sorry this post is so long. I'll try to leave y'all alone some if I ever get back to where I was happily downloading everyday.