I just assumed that you guys are so excited with the pleasures of spending time with Peerless and me that you all became somewhat over-excited !

re: Deleting...

Two tips:

1. In order to Delete your posts simply click on Edit down on the right of every post field. Then check-mark the box, on the upper left of the page that opens, and then click on Delete.

2. In order to delete MY posts simply send me 100,000 Euros in a plain-brown wrapper and I will do it for you.

INANITY
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Edited to comply with the House Rules.
There will be no excessive use of inanity permitted in these forums.

and, far more seriously...

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Edited to comply with the House Rules.
Any impersonation of being an intelligent forum member in any
mode of communication is strictly prohibited and will result
in a quite delicious caning.
:p

Latest score:

P 9 LW 1

I of course will throw them all back as they are less than 192kbps MP3 and 160kbps m4a.

I do not want to deplete the stocks of undersize files floating out there s:-)

What would be interesting would be if teag_98 could let us know if anything worked for him.

Whether the following advice worked for him:

that he doesn't understand p2p, doesn't understand tools, is in a universe of wrong network settings, that it works for 90% of the people, that there ARE correct and incorrect settings, that the necessary accompanying documentation is either inadequate, out of date or non-existent, that he is not quite as switched on to this here p2p thingie as you may believe, use [Edit] and [Edit] and [Edit], the user is often the own cause of the slow speeds, scan his entire machine for viruses and so-called Adware/Spyware/Dataminer (ignoring it is not a PC), there are numerous comments made in regards to the possible cause(s) of reduced download 'performance', understand the nature of the network, compare other clients with Limewire or other REAL GNUTELLA clients not if they scan other networks (that's cheating), don't use garbageware (???) to find spyware, ignore "the 'felt' performance", come to his senses and try to do something to clean up HIS system, presume viruses and trojans that no-one has been able to find, stop LEECHING even if he is not, and above all review the thread, because many people told him the possible reasons.

P 12 LW 1

Re: it's taking forever to get a song!
 

Agreed.
It would be interesting to hear from teag_98.
It would also be interesting to have revealed how it is that rubaiyat is able to know that teag_98 is not with some problem with viruses or 'dataminers' which could be influencing his bandwidth utilisation, the capacity of which is also unknown... Unknown to such a degree that it is even impossible to know what teag_98 actually means by, "trying to download for days", as teag_98 does not indicate whether or not there are any files which are even so much as in the process of downloading, as opposed to being queued, waiting, reset... Whatever.
It would also be one of those truly "Jolly hockey-sticks, what ?", type moments to know what teag_98s OS and computer and p2p client might be.
56k modem ? ADSL 256/128 ? T1 ?

"Only the Shadow knows !"
(And, apparently, rubaiyat.) :confused:

Nice of you to presume that I know, but I don't.

That is why it "would be interesting if teag_98 could let us know if anything worked for him"

s:-)

P 13 LW 2

Now you are talking bullshit!!!

Cosborn said serials are series not me!!!

Ursula edited his post and I said the "possible" reasons for it and I also said that he should ask Ursula... btw I never read the original thread.

I wonder why you miss this because you are a native speaker! :rolleyes:

We replied to your OBSERVATIONS and told you why your OBSERVATIONS might be different from other people. But you only believe your OBSERVATIONS instead of trying out what experience users told you. I understand that you didn´t know how p2p works.

No, you can say what you want but shouldn´t wonder if some other people disagree (remember?).

I would reply the same things if you would talk about other Gnutella clients or a different network, but really what do you expect? You come here instead of saying hey Limewire is slow compared to my other client what might be the reason? You say forget Limewire (Gnutella) because the other client is better... do you see a difference here? If not I will tell you the difference, the first statment says: hey I am not sure if my settings are correct please help me. The second: hey I know what I am doing my settings should be correct and Limewire sucks - wannabe expert! If you want help you should ask for help and not make stupid statements.

btw I am no fan of Limewire! :p

Morgwen

P 16 LW 3

Want me to keep going? LW is gaining based on percentage!

Use the edit option and check the box where it says "delete post" and than click on delete now!

Morgwen

For the last time, since your other client connects to four networks you will find more sources with it, ergo this client "should" be faster than Limewire, remember Limewire uses only Gnutella! Perhaps you can test it, look if your client has the option to connect to Gnutella ONLY and see how fast it is with one network...

Morgwen

Thanks for letting me know how to delete my post, something I will no doubt find useful.

So if you don't see my post, you'll know I have done it s:-)

I got you the first time about being a Gnutella purist. Given the problem for the original poster, cosburn, many others in this forum and myself is to get better transfers why would I want to limit the client that actually gets the job done?

Just as I find it hard to understand how posters can say both that their clients are easy to set up and operate, then tell me I must correctly adjust the settings (is that: Menu > Settings > Correct/Incorrect) and devote my life to "understand" Gnutella better (I should read the manual).

If I need to make unspecified setting adjustments and need to learn the deep inner workings of p2p networks to get acceptable performance, where is the "easy"?

WRONG.
Morgwen is in no way a 'Gnutella Purist'.NO ONE is suggesting what you allude to above.
What people ARE telling you is that it is not correct in any manner to make these continuous 'comparisons' with anything other than 'like with like'.
Morgwen's comments to you in his recent posts have been completely correct.This is not meant to be taken as being insulting to you, but one of the very clear ways of determining the true level of experience of someone vis a vis computers is to determine just exactly how well they understand THE FUNDAMENTAL REALITY TODAY that, for practical purposes on this planet, NO TWO COMPUTERS ARE THE SAME (regardless of how similar said machines may appear to be from a view of their specifications or installed software or marketing hype.) Whether PC or Mac, computers today remain primitive devices with still NO complete commonality. The 'image' which is promoted by the manufacturers of hardware and software that states or implies that these machines are 'wonders' capable of actually doing what is 'shown' in an advertising campaign is believed by the majority of the population... Believed ? Hey, almost worshipped by many !

The reality is that they are all still temperamental little monsters that only function in a most crude way, especially when it comes to issues of commonality in regards to any usage involving communications with the 'outside world'.

Hence the high 'probability' that 'some adjustments' may 'possibly' be required and that 'fundamental maintenance', (defragmentation of drives, etc., etc.) cannot be ignored.Your 'browser' crapped out on you a short time ago... I'll bet the dudes that made that for you REALLY said it was all easy, hmmm ?
In order to use the internet with 'acceptable performance' it is necessary to have a fairly comprehensive understanding of the workings of the internet - Contrary to ALL nonsense promoted by the computer industry, practically NOTHING WORKS PROPERLY 'STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX'.


You must try to understand that it is absurd to continue this nonsense of comparing performance of p2p clients while limiting yourself to only references to dissimilar networks.


This thread is approaching a state of "Must Move To The General Discussion Forums"...

NOT because it is 'unfriendly' to LimeWire, but because it is (through your good efforts)
losing any connection with having anything to do with LimeWire.

I thought you want to know why your client is faster? If not why are we discussing here??? :confused:

You don´t need to learn the deep inner workings of p2p for an acceptable performance but you should know about what you are talking before you claim what is better and what not. For an acceptable performance there isn´t much to know, only how to configure your firewall or how you can to forward a port (all Limewire options), its enought to read the faq!!!

Maybe I missed it, but I didn´t see where you posted your settings... how should we tell you if this is correct or not?

I don´t know what you mean with Gnutella purist, but if you think its my favorite network you are wrong, I mainly use the donkey network because I download mainly larger files and there is no better network for larger files. You see I have no problems that you use an other client but you should AT LEAST know what about you are talking before you share your wisdom...

Morgwen

I should be more careful in my use of English when I know you are not principally English speakers, no matter how well you speak it. s:-)

By "got" I meant I understood. You are asking me to run only the gnuttela plugin in Poisoned so that we can compare gnutella in LW with gnutella in P?

I understand why you might ask that but from the point of the user who wants better performance this is not a good comparison. P derives much of its performance from being a superclient.

That LimeWire is not, is just too bad for LimeWire.

You keep repeating I should learn to configure my firewall. I have it turned off, is that not enough? And port forwarding I thought was just to get through the firewall.

I'm hesitent to give out my settings to just anyone reading this forum, but I went through them with stief. We also tested direct transfers between us using LW in both directions, they went fast enough. It is real world DLs in LW that are slow and mostly broken.

I think it would give you the anwser you are searching for but its your decision... and nobody said you should leave it with only one network.

I meant this in general, this is a very common problem. About port forwarding yes you need it to go through a firewall, but only if you can´t set it up - at work or universities for exaample.

I really don´t know why we discussed the days? You don´t want to test the things I suggest and ask to improve your settings but don´t give any information about them...

Argh... test it with YOUR client and we will see if this is a Limewire problem or a general Gnutella problem or one of the dozen things we guessed...

Morgwen